# Oh Noes **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [June 18, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623 "2007-06-18T17:03:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/41 "2007-07-10T19:14:07Z")
> [@06/21/2007 skate?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/06-21-2007-skate/31264/3): > > Can you think of another small sedan that gets around 40mpg, runs mid 15s stock, and has a decent suspension? > > I’ve had a lot of fun fairly cheaply in various neons over the years, much of it honestly because I haven’t yet been able to afford a car that I really want. Cobalt SS ---
**Author:** ![The1SloR\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the1slor_t/32/5984_2.png) [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/42 "2007-07-10T20:44:45Z")
> [@325whp???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/325whp/31255/14): > > Cobalt SS which isnt comfortable and ride isnt that amazing IMO ---
**Author:** ![wrayzor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wrayzor/32/6021_2.png) [@wrayzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wrayzor)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/43 "2007-07-10T20:58:36Z")
Civic/Integra anyone? :dunno: ---
**Author:** ![neonmike22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@neonmike22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonmike22)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/44 "2007-07-10T21:00:01Z")
> [@325whp???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/325whp/31255/14): > > Cobalt SS That’s a $13k car, lots of stuff i’d rather have. We’re talking $3000ish. > [@Polish Falcons Cruise Night Every Thursday Night](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/polish-falcons-cruise-night-every-thursday-night/13606/78): > > Civic/Integra anyone? :dunno: The hondas are a lot more expensive for the same model year, and only the GS-R has more power. ---
**Author:** ![wrayzor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wrayzor/32/6021_2.png) [@wrayzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wrayzor)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/45 "2007-07-10T21:03:46Z")
> [@so who has the dark red turbo miata in williamsville?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-who-has-the-dark-red-turbo-miata-in-williamsville/31267/21): > > That’s a $13k car, lots of stuff i’d rather have. We’re talking $3000ish. 13k for a car isn’t much at all for a brand new car some people dont like to spend money…the way i look at it you can’t take it to the grave with ya ---
**Author:** ![wrayzor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wrayzor/32/6021_2.png) [@wrayzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wrayzor)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/46 "2007-07-10T21:06:23Z")
> [@so who has the dark red turbo miata in williamsville?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-who-has-the-dark-red-turbo-miata-in-williamsville/31267/21): > > That’s a $13k car, lots of stuff i’d rather have. We’re talking $3000ish. 13k for a brand new car isnt that much at all…some people dont like to spend money, way i look at it you cant take it to the grave > [@so who has the dark red turbo miata in williamsville?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-who-has-the-dark-red-turbo-miata-in-williamsville/31267/21): > > The hondas are a lot more expensive for the same model year, and only the GS-R has more power. You could buy a swapped B series civic for 6k or less easy ---
**Author:** ![smokeyburnouts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyburnouts/32/5987_2.png) [@smokeyburnouts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyburnouts)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/47 "2007-07-11T07:41:35Z")
overall, Cobalt SS \> neon (including SRT) all day long ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/48 "2007-07-11T07:44:24Z")
Id rather have the turbo over the blower anyway. swapping pulleys for boost is a pain in the ass ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/49 "2007-07-11T08:04:48Z")
> [@\*\*\* Every Thursday night at Prespa on Delaware Ave. 21+ \*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-thursday-night-at-prespa-on-delaware-ave-21/31233/15): > > Id rather have the turbo over the blower anyway. swapping pulleys for boost is a pain in the ass The actual swapping of the pulley aint shit…like 15 minutes worth of work. tuning ang everything else (supporting mods) is a pain in the ass. ---
**Author:** ![neonmike22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@neonmike22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonmike22)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/50 "2007-07-11T08:27:47Z")
I’m surprised that the GM guys aren’t arguing that the cavalier/sunflower is better. 😛 > [@Attn: Ritz Residents](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-ritz-residents/31265/8): > > 13k for a brand new car isnt that much at all…some people dont like to spend money, way i look at it you cant take it to the grave Gotta have the money to spend it. > [@Attn: Ritz Residents](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-ritz-residents/31265/8): > > You could buy a swapped B series civic for 6k or less easy There’s stuff i’d rather have for 6k that isin’t a honda or a neon though. ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/51 "2007-07-11T09:01:38Z")
> [@bics56"](#): > > The actual swapping of the pulley aint shit…like 15 minutes worth of work. tuning ang everything else (supporting mods) is a pain in the ass. well the fact that to up the boost on a turbo, you turn a knob. to change boost on a supercharger you have to take the belt off, remove the bolt out of the pully, attach the puller, pull the pulley, press the pulley back on, put the bolt back in, and then put the belt back on. get off GM’s nuts. not to mention with an exlectronic boost controller you can change boost levels from inside the car with the push of a button ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/52 "2007-07-11T09:05:46Z")
> [@\*\*\* Every Thursday night at Prespa on Delaware Ave. 21+ \*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/every-thursday-night-at-prespa-on-delaware-ave-21/31233/15): > > Id rather have the turbo over the blower anyway. swapping pulleys for boost is a pain in the ass soo why did u trade ur turbo set up for a s/c set up? ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/53 "2007-07-11T09:06:07Z")
> [@Another TW thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-tw-thread/31282/3): > > well the fact that to up the boost on a turbo, you turn a knob. to change boost on a supercharger you have to take the belt off, remove the bolt out of the pully, attach the puller, pull the pulley, press the pulley back on, put the bolt back in, and then put the belt back on. > > get off GM’s nuts. > > not to mention with an exlectronic boost controller you can change boost levels from inside the car with the push of a button not riding nuts…yes turbo is easier…but changing a pulley is not a PITA ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/54 "2007-07-11T09:10:20Z")
> [@2 pix of the newly black sol](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2-pix-of-the-newly-black-sol/31229/37): > > soo why did u trade ur turbo set up for a s/c set up? because of the oil return issues and how on edge the car felt without the swaybar. i have no reason to increase boost on my car where im at anyway, im getting close to the max of my block, so adding boost would be bad for me. i like the supercharger alot, but i bet that car will eventually be turbo again. > [@The baby blue shark hood neon tried chasing me down...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-baby-blue-shark-hood-neon-tried-chasing-me-down/30686/487): > > not riding nuts…yes turbo is easier…but changing a pulley is not a PITA it’s enough of a pain. haha. especially when you have to track someone down with a puller ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/55 "2007-07-11T09:24:43Z")
> [@The baby blue shark hood neon tried chasing me down...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-baby-blue-shark-hood-neon-tried-chasing-me-down/30686/488): > > because of the oil return issues and how on edge the car felt without the swaybar. i have no reason to increase boost on my car where im at anyway, im getting close to the max of my block, so adding boost would be bad for me. i like the supercharger alot, but i bet that car will eventually be turbo again. > > it’s enough of a pain. haha. especially when you have to track someone down with a puller True…getting a pulley puller is a pita. I never drove a turbo car (well one that was fast) but from what I hear I think I would like the S/C power better…more low end and less lag. ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/56 "2007-07-11T09:28:03Z")
> [@The baby blue shark hood neon tried chasing me down...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-baby-blue-shark-hood-neon-tried-chasing-me-down/30686/492): > > True…getting a pulley puller is a pita. > > I never drove a turbo car (well one that was fast) but from what I hear I think I would like the S/C power better…more low end and less lag. its all about turbo sizing. a correctly sized turbo to the application is a fun car with minimal lag. i was driving a 6spd 07 Saab 9-3 Aero around the other day. such a fun car. ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-noes/190623/57 "2007-07-11T10:01:21Z")
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