# Oil... how does it work? \[split\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 6, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189 "2012-01-06T23:40:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/201 "2012-01-11T20:34:35Z")
This thread is as about as cool as watching paint dry. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/202 "2012-01-11T20:40:05Z")
Vlad, how does it feel to be regarded as the biggest dope on your own forum? ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/203 "2012-01-11T20:42:39Z")
> [@DONE: D16Z6 Manual Transmission](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-d16z6-manual-transmission/47819/9): > > I’m not “going and reading anything”. Do you honestly think you’re correct that the SAE,ILSAC, and all of the major oil manufactures have unknowingly incorrectly labeled oil since the creation of multigrade oil?!? > > You’re wrong and you’re being a troll on your own forum. Why not try to save some face, admit that you’re wrong, and move on? So all of a sudden no more logical argument and you’re attacking me? Perfect, two down, thank you. Thank you for playing. Moving on, now that we all see that the grades are directly comparable, ignoring Travis’s theories and claims based on nothing VS plenty of evidence above clearly displaying that they are. Therefore an oil that is thick should have a high number, and as it gets thinner it goes lower or more viscous. 10w30 should be 50w30 using their own rule “Low # thin, high # thick” 50 when it’s cold and thick, then a 30 once it warms up and thins. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/204 "2012-01-11T21:15:17Z")
You should ban travis for such back talk on your forum ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/205 "2012-01-11T21:46:16Z")
> [@Murrdog9000"](#): > > Vlad, how does it feel to be regarded as the biggest dope on your own forum? Ignorance doesn’t bother me. Everybody else I’ve talked about this about saw my point within a few minutes and found it funny how system doesn’t make sense. I’ve been battling with you guys over this for days. You attempting to insult my intelligence made my day. :rofl ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/206 "2012-01-11T22:37:13Z")
In russia, intelligence makes days ---
**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 4:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/207 "2012-01-12T04:50:54Z")
Where is that thread of awesomeness? I ended up here and now my penis is soft. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/208 "2012-01-12T05:22:15Z")
This thread seriouuuuusly sucks. I get what vlad is saying, but it’s retarded. :facepalm ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/209 "2012-01-12T05:57:58Z")
> [@ANOTHER COOL WAY TO COOK BACON](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-cool-way-to-cook-bacon/47799/18): > > **Ignorance doesn’t bother me.** > > Everybody else I’ve talked about this about saw my point within a few minutes and found it funny how system doesn’t make sense.l Obviously, who the fuck else did you talk to about this. Did you give a lecture at special ed? I’m literally dumbfounded this is still continuing. We’ve proved you wrong 10BILLION times and you dont get it. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/210 "2012-01-12T05:58:32Z")
> [@Track Helmet, dirtbike/atv/etc boots](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/track-helmet-dirtbike-atv-etc-boots/46296/10): > > Yeah idk why this isn’t a tech site… :rofl REP! im dying. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/211 "2012-01-12T06:08:56Z")
> [@Anyone know a good place to camp??](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-know-a-good-place-to-camp/47846/4): > > Obviously, who the fuck else did you talk to about this. Did you give a lecture at special ed? I’m literally dumbfounded this is still continuing. We’ve proved you wrong 10BILLION times and you dont get it. Hey dumbass, I think I just proved a good 4 of you wrong who were stating that the SAE numbers of viscosity aren’t comparable if the two fluids speeds are measured at different temps. That’s exactly how they are comparable. You take a fluid, measure it’s speed and record a temperature to know how that fluid reacts at that temperature. If a fluid acts like a 20 at 32deg (20w) and another fluid acts like a 20 at 210 deg, they have the same viscosity (check the chart). 20w = 20 in cSt’s. Or look at the other chart when the comparison between viscosity of w’s is directly below the non W’s in the same scale. Now that a few members making uprules that don’t exist out of the way this is going to be much easier. (Travis, Cossey, Shady, Benny) The speed of a fluid rated as a 5 at 32 degrees is directly comparable to the speed of a fluid rated as a 20 at 210 degrees. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/212 "2012-01-12T06:13:23Z")
> [@Justpicked up a new summer beater \*\*CRX inside\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/justpicked-up-a-new-summer-beater-crx-inside/47826/22): > > Want more proof? > > Directly above and below each other directly linear relative to cSt viscosity. > > But I thought they are incomparable? > > So can we all agree that the W SAE numbers are directly comparable to non W SAE numbers? Can you post a non mobile link, my eyes hurt ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/213 "2012-01-12T06:16:12Z")
YO SINGH WHERE YOU AT. You are the local oil authority in here, as appointed by PJB. Now save me some money and solve this argument too. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/214 "2012-01-12T06:19:15Z")
> [@ninety1two40"](#): > > Can you post a non mobile link, my eyes hurt Here is another for simple explanation As rating goes up, SAE or cSt, fluid gets thicker. Multi grade oil that has a 10w will act like an SAE 10 at 32\* def F, which is thinner than a 20w, which is also thinner than a 20. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/215 "2012-01-12T06:30:58Z")
I literally cannot sigh any louder. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/216 "2012-01-12T08:35:35Z")
:rofl ---
**Author:** ![rainmanpaul](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rainmanpaul/32/6485_2.png) [@rainmanpaul](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rainmanpaul)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/217 "2012-01-12T09:22:10Z")
> [@What is the best way to get your Credit up in the next 6 mos. or year?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-your-credit-up-in-the-next-6-mos-or-year/47832/9): > > Do you understand what you just said? > > Oil will get thicker when cold. > > But because of it’s properties you want it thinner so it flows when it’s cold. > > :banghead If you hopped in Doc Brown’s DeLorean and went back to 1965, your dilemma would make sense. People would look at this multigrade discussion and say “impossible!”…because it _was_. NOW, due to the beauty of human ingenuity…it is possible. Think back to my Buick. 10W and 10% kerosene. Kerosene. So once that thing warms up, and maybe even the owner dons a blanket over the radiator or maybe it’s a Duesenberg not a Buick so it has fancy thermo-shutters on the front to cover the radiator, thermostat helps out and it still reaches 160-180F despite being at say Nome Alaska in the winter, how well is that watery oil going to do? Terrible. One of the many reasons 100,000 miles or so and an engine was spent back in the day, hell people considered the whole car to just be junk for the hell of it. To run that 1930-something right without wearing its bearings out, you should TECHNICALLY…yup…change the oil and dump in a thicker weight once it has warmed up, way up there in Nome. Silly. Now, multigrade essentially does just that. Now being 1980 or 90-whatever when it first came out lol. ---
**Author:** ![Neo187H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@Neo187H](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neo187H)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/218 "2012-01-12T11:26:40Z")
Let’s try this one last time, you have all of the facts but somehow can’t make this connection. When cold a 5w20 engine oil acts like a 5 weight oil would act at 0C, when hot it acts like a 20 weight oil would at 100C, does this make sense to you? It doesn’t get any simpler than that. You’re comparing a 5w20 against hot and cold saying its thinner when it’s hot and no one is argueing you on that. Oil thins out as it heats up, a 20 weight oil is going to be heavier at 0c than it is at 100c but guess what. It would STILL test out to be a 20 weight oil. And the same thing for a 5 weight oil, thicker at 0c and thinner at 100c. You can’t compare a 5 weight oil at 0c to a 20 weight oil at 100c. You’re comparing apples to oranges. If you want to compare apples to apples get a 5 weight oil at 100c and get a 20 weight oil at 100c, see which one is thinner. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/219 "2012-01-12T11:28:13Z")
All of it makes sense but the reason you switched from \*f to \*c confused me. ---
**Author:** ![Neo187H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@Neo187H](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neo187H)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189/220 "2012-01-12T13:22:07Z")
> [@whats up kids:)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whats-up-kids/47861/14): > > All of it makes sense but the reason you switched from \*f to \*c confused me. Good call, fixed that. I’m so used to using metric with work that I didn’t even notice it hahah. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oil-how-does-it-work-split/262189.md?page=12)