# ok, NOW I'm scared **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 28, 2009, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640 "2009-01-28T12:00:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/61 "2009-01-29T06:47:16Z")
> [@FS: Massive garage sale HONDA DC2 EG 96-98 civic part out JDM goodies](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-massive-garage-sale-honda-dc2-eg-96-98-civic-part-out-jdm-goodies/13263/8): > > i gotta agree with granmassax on this whole issue because three ring binders with your certs are def lame, and also you cant argue with the guy who hires these kind of idiots Ehh im just talking about my experiance when talking to employers… aparently we both see 2 differant things… and singh stfu your not even “in” this buisness ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/62 "2009-01-29T06:52:54Z")
> [@boat rental? (buffalo area... lake erie)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boat-rental-buffalo-area-lake-erie/13254/5): > > Ehh im just talking about my experiance when talking to employers… > > aparently we both see 2 differant things… you are on the other end of things, in a way. You have your certs, you have your job, you are told your certs are worthy. Why would you not think otherwise? talking to employers and being an employer are not comparable (I’m not really an employer, but I know enough about it to speak as one). What is an employer going to do after they see all your certs? come out and tell you that they don’t give a shit? I don’t think so. I’m sure all their answers are completely PC… “uhh, yes, it shows that you care about your career and want to further better yourself, very nice” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/63 "2009-01-29T06:59:07Z")
> [@boat rental? (buffalo area... lake erie)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/boat-rental-buffalo-area-lake-erie/13254/5): > > and singh stfu your not even “in” this buisness so what ! im smarter than average and can see things from both ends, so i’ll put my 2 penies where i feel like 😃 plus i’ll ban u ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/64 "2009-01-29T06:59:52Z")
> [@6/17 - Transit Drive In: Fast & Furious: Tokyo Drift](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/6-17-transit-drive-in-fast-furious-tokyo-drift/13243/14): > > you are on the other end of things, in a way. You have your certs, you have your job, you are told your certs are worthy. Why would you not think otherwise? > > talking to employers and being an employer are not comparable (I’m not really an employer, but I know enough about it to speak as one). What is an employer going to do after they see all your certs? come out and tell you that they don’t give a shit? I don’t think so. I’m sure all their answers are completely PC… “uhh, yes, it shows that you care about your career and want to further better yourself, very nice” 😃 See, i dont even rely soly on my resume and experiance to get me a job, im a people person, I know how to talk to them and I dont bullshit. Im not going to tell an employer how id love to come work for the company till im old and dead… Truth is I dont know whats going to happen in the next few years but if I can id like to stay with you for as long as possible or untill its time for me to move on… ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/65 "2009-01-29T07:01:43Z")
> [@Red Rexy Wagon\> Grocery Getting SHO](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-rexy-wagon-grocery-getting-sho/13199/9): > > See, i dont even rely soly on my resume and experiance to get me a job, im a people person, I know how to talk to them and I dont bullshit. Im not going to tell an employer how id love to come work for the company till im old and dead… > > Truth is I dont know whats going to happen in the next few years but if I can id like to stay with you for as long as possible or untill its time for me to move on… we are talking about certs and their worth… what the hell are you talking about? :rofl ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/66 "2009-01-29T07:03:48Z")
> [@6/17 - Transit Drive In: Fast & Furious: Tokyo Drift](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/6-17-transit-drive-in-fast-furious-tokyo-drift/13243/15): > > so what ! im smarter than average and can see things from both ends, so i’ll put my 2 penies where i feel like 😃 > > plus i’ll ban u > [@GranMassaX"](#): > > we are talking about certs and their worth… what the hell are you talking about? :rofl I have no fucking idea, I just took the nastiest shit that the whole sales department can now smell and I think the fumes are messing with my head… Seriously it made me feel a little sick it fuckin stunk :rofl ---
**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/67 "2009-01-29T07:08:39Z")
> [@Red Rexy Wagon\> Grocery Getting SHO](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/red-rexy-wagon-grocery-getting-sho/13199/9): > > See, i dont even rely soly on my resume and experiance to get me a job, im a people person, I know how to talk to them and I dont bullshit. Im not going to tell an employer how id love to come work for the company till im old and dead… > > Truth is I dont know whats going to happen in the next few years but if I can id like to stay with you for as long as possible or untill its time for me to move on… thats a good point, be a people person, cuz no matter what business your in, if your good with people you will do muchhhhh better even if you work for some asshole or yourself… ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/68 "2009-01-29T07:12:52Z")
> [@Singh"](#): > > thats a good point, be a people person, cuz no matter what business your in, if your good with people you will do muchhhhh better even if you work for some asshole or yourself… Yea like here, everyone loves me, Im fun, outgoing and arent afraid to bust balls when needed. Where as the dumbshit that worked hear before me sat in the corner all day and jerked off and was tatooed and piereced up to high heaven, barely knew anything and dident talk to anybody. ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/69 "2009-01-29T07:24:40Z")
> [@Who has pics from Slip n' Slide?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-has-pics-from-slip-n-slide/13255/10): > > I have no fucking idea, I just took the nastiest shit that the whole sales department can now smell and I think the fumes are messing with my head… Seriously it made me feel a little sick it fuckin stunk :rofl you should get a certification for that ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/70 "2009-01-29T07:26:38Z")
> [@where to go for my bday](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-to-go-for-my-bday/13204/41): > > you should get a certification for that I do, whats your address I’ll leave it on your desk :rofl ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/71 "2009-01-29T10:28:09Z")
> [@What are you listening to RIGHT NOW? Pt. NYSpeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-you-listening-to-right-now-pt-nyspeed/183/528): > > you obviously know absolutely nothing about programmers cause every assumption you made is incorrect. You example is outsourcing to india, are you serious? What place around here actually does this? c’mon man… you can do better than that. My point is its much easier to outsource even to a different part of the US for a programmer than it is for a network admin. Being a programmer is actually EASIER when it comes to finding jobs because you can work for anyone, anywhere (generally speaking due to todays advances in technology). I like my chances. If I’m truly good at my job (as I think I am - and I’m still getting better), a company won’t want to let me go. If I was a programmer, they could technically replace me with someone better who is hundreds of miles away and have them work from home. My good friend works/develops on the side for a company in Boston but lives in Latham. That’s the kind of stuff I’m talking about. > [@What are you listening to RIGHT NOW? Pt. NYSpeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-you-listening-to-right-now-pt-nyspeed/183/528): > > I’ve done plenty of networking and I’ve done plenty of programming. Both at school (rpi) and in the real world. You don’t necessarily need a 4 year degree and gobs of experience to land a solid networking job. Programming on the other hand, you do. That is true. I got my gig without any education, but that’s because I had experience. I completed my education after getting hired. The friend mentioned above doesn’t even have a 2yr degree. He just has a crap load of experience. I’m sure with a degree he’d be doing even better for himself though. But that still doesn’t mean that education/certifications are useless as you are seemingly suggesting. > [@What are you listening to RIGHT NOW? Pt. NYSpeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-you-listening-to-right-now-pt-nyspeed/183/528): > > … the rest of your post was just a bunch of rambling that I didn’t choose to read and/or respond to. If you want me to address something specific than make a cliff notes version :up It was about education and getting degrees/certs in general and why it’s a good thing. Good enough cliff notes version? Stop being such a dick. I’d hate working with someone like you. From what I’ve seen in the discussions you take part in on here, you think of yourself as being higher above everyone else because you have ‘experience’ and are a ‘consultant’. Whoopie! Relax. > [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/8661/349): > > If the employer wants to see them then they can ask me to fax a copy over +1. > [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/8661/349): > > You list the important certs on your resume and answer questions if they come up… I dont think your directing it towards me but im not an idiot massa, I may not have the experiane you do or know as much as you, but dont talk to me like im some retard who just went to school and thinks I know everything, most of the stuff I knwo goes from experiance and teaching it myself… Seriously. I may be 22 but I think I’ve done quite well for myself. That doesn’t happen without hard work and knowing your shit. I bust my ass everyday, and I’m sure Shady does as well. Also, being a people person helps. Customer service is a big part of my job (internal customers and external customers). I don’t give a shit if you’re a consultant, Massa. My brother is an assistant director being groomed to become director and gives me pointers on career management all the time. Every company is different, just cause you personally don’t care for certs or the companies you’ve worked with don’t, doesn’t mean everyone in IT doesn’t care. I’ve actually looked at jobs in Clearwater, FL and many of them wanted MCSE/A, Network+, CCNA, or A+. > [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/8661/349): > > I know some programming, I choose not to do it as I think its boring as all hell, i cant sit their and write code. I know theres good money in it especialy when working for a company makeing propritary software… but to me its not worth being miserable That’s exactly why I didn’t pursue programming. I don’t know how my other brother (who is a senior programmer/analyst for NYS Comptrollers) does it. Guy is smart but damn his job must be boring. > [@Buffalo wants to ban stereo upgrades](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-wants-to-ban-stereo-upgrades/13250/29): > > we’ve never asked for certs when hiring. But MANY people decided to talk about and display them. Usually in a three ring binder. Very lame. > > If you’ve never conducted an interview then you have no idea the kind of clowns are really out there. I’ve done interviews and I agree. There are some clowns out there. We were hiring an intern…all of them were tools except for one. And he ended up not working out as planned. I busted my ass as an intern with this company. That’s why I’ve been promoted twice and my salary/responsibilities have more than doubled. I set a standard for future interns. > [@Anyone with a truck wanna take a roadtrip?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-with-a-truck-wanna-take-a-roadtrip/13257/14): > > WTF dude, i always bring in my certifications, my degree, a dog that does backflips and red lipstick in case i need to go under the desk… > > oh and all my certs are in a pink 3 ring binder that says Number one Tech with pink flowery paper that the certs are centerred on lmao. * * * **I’m not trying to make enemies with anyone here but I take issue with anyone who says education/bettering yourself is worthless/waste of time. If it was, companies wouldn’t be paying for their employees to take classes and get certified. Your opinion is one thing, but stop making generalizations that IT in general no longer cares for certs. They do.** ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/72 "2009-01-29T10:47:23Z")
I dont think massa is saying education and certifications are useless, I think hes just saying there not a big priority… Anyone with the experiance and the education/certifications will triumph over someone with just experiance. I would like to think I bust my ass at work. If theres nothing to do I help my bosses wife with clerical duties, if theres nothign to do there, I watch videos and read manuals about product we sell as to learn the company and help out in other areas. Unfortunatly I’m looking for another job, as while I like working for the company I do I technicaly only work part time and how our IT department runs isnt the best in terms of bettering my abilites. We dont run in a domain and everything is done in a matter of most home computers. My network at home is more advanced. I’ve been trying to get my boss to move us to a domain but he does not want to do it because employess don’t like change and most have been there for 5-30 years. Also hes convinced that its a single point of failure when its not when implemented right. Also right now we don’t really have the money to blow on server to do it. Although I’m confident I could make do with what we have and make it work efficiently. Basicly I want to implment this and if I did he could fire me in a heartbeat and lighten his own workload by 50% So ILYA if your company is looking for people let me know 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/73 "2009-01-29T10:53:26Z")
> [@Evo \> Choda](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-choda/13198/76): > > I dont think massa is saying education and certifications are useless, I think hes just saying there not a big priority… > > Anyone with the experiance and the education/certifications will triumph over someone with just experiance. > > I would like to think I bust my ass at work. If theres nothing to do I help my bosses wife with clerical duties, if theres nothign to do there, I watch videos and read manuals about product we sell as to learn the company and help out in other areas. > > Unfortunatly I’m looking for another job, as while I like working for the company I do I technicaly only work part time and how our IT department runs isnt the best in terms of bettering my abilites. We dont run in a domain and everything is done in a matter of most home computers. > > My network at home is more advanced. I’ve been trying to get my boss to move us to a domain but he does not want to do it because employess don’t like change and most have been there for 5-30 years. Also hes convinced that its a single point of failure when its not when implemented right. Also right now we don’t really have the money to blow on server to do it. Although I’m confident I could make do with what we have and make it work efficiently. Basicly I want to implment this and if I did he could fire me in a heartbeat and lighten his own workload by 50% > > So ILYA if your company is looking for people let me know 😮 Well yeah…but I think there should be a priority on it regardless. It’s not a waste of money or time. If someone applies with 5 years experience and someone else applies with 5 years experiences + 10 certs. I’d imagine the latter would win out. As for us hiring…we’re not hiring for sure lol. They are consolidating our data center down to TX, luckily I don’t just do networking but I do higher level support for everything around here (phones, PC’s, printing). They are counting on attrition to get rid of some people lol. I’m not going anywhere…I have plenty of work to do even without the major network stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/74 "2009-01-29T10:55:47Z")
> [@Evo \> Choda](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-choda/13198/77): > > Well yeah…but I think there should be a priority on it regardless. It’s not a waste of money or time. > > If someone applies with 5 years experience and someone else applies with 5 years experiences + 10 certs. I’d imagine the latter would win out. > > As for us hiring…we’re not hiring for sure lol. They are consolidating our data center down to TX, luckily I don’t just do networking but I do higher level support for everything around here (phones, PC’s, printing). They are counting on attrition to get rid of some people lol. I’m not going anywhere…I have plenty of work to do even without the major network stuff. In terms of helpdesk its something that I don’t mind doing as I like finding weird problems and I don’t mind dealing with people, but I need some place that has a proper buisness networking structure so I can get some more experiance in that area because im not afraid to admit im deff lacking in those areas IMO… Let me know if you know of anyplaces hiring or looking for people ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/75 "2009-01-29T10:57:26Z")
Will you nerds PLEASE shut the hell up. ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/76 "2009-01-29T11:02:33Z")
> [@FS: 91 honda accord](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-91-honda-accord/13274/2): > > In terms of helpdesk its something that I don’t mind doing as I like finding weird problems and I don’t mind dealing with people, but I need some place that has a proper buisness networking structure so I can get some more experiance in that area because im not afraid to admit im deff lacking in those areas IMO… > > Let me know if you know of anyplaces hiring or looking for people What are you using to look for work? I use [Jobstu.com](http://Jobstu.com), [careerbuilder.com](http://careerbuilder.com), [monster.com](http://monster.com), [capitalareahelpwanted.com](http://capitalareahelpwanted.com). > [@July 22,23 NYSpeed @ NOPI New York](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/july-22-23-nyspeed-nopi-new-york/11913/69): > > Will you nerds PLEASE shut the hell up. Nerds are vital to almost every major organization on the planet. Everything is computerized these days…nerds are needed to maintain all of that stuff. Welcome, minion. :P. ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/77 "2009-01-29T11:05:08Z")
> [@Ilya"](#): > > Stop being such a dick. I’d hate working with someone like you. From what I’ve seen in the discussions you take part in on here, you think of yourself as being higher above everyone else because you have ‘experience’ and are a ‘consultant’. Whoopie! how dense can you be? How did me mentioning me being a consultant come off like I’m holier than thou? If you knew anything about the IT world then you’d understand why I brought it up. Since you didn’t, it just further proves my point on how clueless you are. Consultant work is VERY risky. We usually get tossed into projects expecting to perform immediately. Hiring process is usually much more involved because of that. I simply brought it to prove my experience. Not too sure how you read it as me bragging. Being a consultant is nothing to brag about AT ALL. I’d much rather be a FTE in a secure company. > [@Ilya"](#): > > I don’t give a shit if you’re a consultant, Massa. My brother is an assistant director being groomed to become director and gives me pointers on career management all the time. Every company is different, just cause you personally don’t care for certs or the companies you’ve worked with don’t, doesn’t mean everyone in IT doesn’t care. don’t really see how any of this is relevant, yet again. Maybe you are just rambling about stuff in some lame attempt to get my off course… not really sure. Don’t give a shit who are what your bro does. Career management? hahaha. Is that like a life coach? You are 22, been at the same job forever and you think you know how the IT world works. For some reason you insist on arguing with me when I know the way the industry works WAY better than you. Not too sure why that is, but suit yourself. I’ve already stated that I think certs are a complete joke AND I’ve also stated that some companies do care about them. I can prove my point over and over again. Singh agreed with me, but it must be the cool thing to argue with me since you didn’t address him :shifty. > [@Ilya"](#): > > I’ve actually looked at jobs in Clearwater, FL and many of them wanted MCSE/A, Network+, CCNA, or A+. …ok…so??? > [@Ilya"](#): > > That’s exactly why I didn’t pursue programming. I don’t know how my other brother (who is a senior programmer/analyst for NYS Comptrollers) does it. Guy is smart but damn his job must be boring. boring, it can be, but it pays the bills better 😃 > [@Ilya"](#): > > **I take issue with anyone who says education/bettering yourself is worthless/waste of time. If it was, companies wouldn’t be paying for their employees to take classes and get certified. Your opinion is one thing, but stop making generalizations that IT in general no longer cares for certs. They do.** you have a serious comprehension issue. I never said furthing your education is worthless… I said certs ARE. BIG difference. Certs are just a test of what you know, they don’t teach you anything. Getting one just proves your worth. Paying for some cert to prove your worth is lame. And then flaunting it around like it’s some amazing accomplishment is even worse. there is no substitute for education and experience. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/78 "2009-01-29T11:10:59Z")
lock1 ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/79 "2009-01-29T11:11:18Z")
> [@Evo \> Choda](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/evo-choda/13198/77): > > If someone applies with 5 years experience and someone else applies with 5 years experiences + 10 certs. I’d imagine the latter would win out. possibly, but not likely. A good interview will be able to tell the persons knowledge on a specific subject. If said applicant w/o certs answers them better then they will get the job vs applicant w/ 18.76 certs and can’t answer shit. If your goal is to get a job w/o an interview then get as many degrees and certs as possible. :rofl ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640/80 "2009-01-29T11:11:47Z")
> [@July 22,23 NYSpeed @ NOPI New York](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/july-22-23-nyspeed-nopi-new-york/11913/69): > > Will you nerds PLEASE shut the hell up. why, does it bother you that this thread has stayed on topic for so long? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ok-now-im-scared/241640.md?page=5)