# OMG Bike Crash Is Everyone OK? \*2018\* (Count = ?)

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [March 13, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288 "2013-03-13T20:32:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2013, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/401 "2013-06-16T10:23:58Z")

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> [@Freek](#):
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> Someone from one of the black only sport bike gangs went down on the 90w-33w ramp on the second turn. I guess stretched swing arms and wide rear tires aren’t the best for turing.

Not legally allowed to say more but, there was more to it than that. Definitely didn’t fall under the “stupidity” category.

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/402 "2013-06-18T14:00:40Z")

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[http://wny-scca.com/index.php?topic=461.msg1267;topicseen#new](http://wny-scca.com/index.php?topic=461.msg1267;topicseen#new)

> [@brucejones](#):
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> **Brian T. Buchman RIP**
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> Sadly Finger Lakes’ Brian Buchman has succumbed to injuries suffered in a one vehicle motorcycle accident in Walworth, NY. Brian led the Finger Lakes’ Solo program for several years and was one of the really nice guys that worked quietly behind the scenes to the benefit of SCCA Solo in this area. Our thoughts and prayers go out to Brian’s family and friends.

[http://www.mpnnow.com/news/x1968258702/Brian-T-Buchman-of-Walworth-dies-in-motorcycle-crash#axzz2WbTeCciw](http://www.mpnnow.com/news/x1968258702/Brian-T-Buchman-of-Walworth-dies-in-motorcycle-crash#axzz2WbTeCciw)  
[http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20130618/NEWS01/306180026/motorcycle-crash](http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20130618/NEWS01/306180026/motorcycle-crash)

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**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/403 "2013-06-18T22:54:41Z")

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Friend of mine was killed tonight in Niagara county. Not a good year for young kids on bikes. He was 20 and had an r6 for a few months as his first bike.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/404 "2013-06-19T04:30:41Z")

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Sorry to hear that.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/405 "2013-06-19T04:37:00Z")

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> [@stuiephoto](#):
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> Friend of mine was killed tonight in Niagara county. Not a good year for young kids on bikes. He was 20 and had an r6 for a few months as his first bike.

News story on this one. Sorry about your friend.

[http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/local/motorcyclist-dies-after-crash-with-van](http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/local/motorcyclist-dies-after-crash-with-van)

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**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/406 "2013-06-19T05:04:29Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> News story on this one. Sorry about your friend.
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> [http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/local/motorcyclist-dies-after-crash-with-van](http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/local/motorcyclist-dies-after-crash-with-van)

I stand by my quote before that I have a hard time feeling bad-- ride a motorcycle and something bad is bound to happen. Its a risk you take. People are being killed on a daily basis it seems and I still hear motorcycles on an hourly basis driving wrecklessly in the distance on the thruway.

My partner at work sold him the bike and is taking it worse than me…blaming himself for “knowing that was too fast of a bike for him”. He just graduated basic training in the Air force and and was an active member of the fire department.

Here’s a better article

> **[UPDATE: Motorcyclist killed in Cambria crash identified](https://www.niagara-gazette.com/news/local_news/update-motorcyclist-killed-in-cambria-crash-identified/article_8a156ea5-dd70-5a87-88a6-d320da6754aa.html)**
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> A 20-year-old motorcyclist was killed Tuesday night after colliding with a minivan in the Town of Cambria.

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**Author:** ![1sik\_bmw](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1sik_bmw/32/7341_2.png) [@1sik\_bmw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1sik_bmw)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/407 "2013-06-19T05:47:33Z")

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All the recent ones appear to be operator error…why cant guys just ride like a normal person

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/408 "2013-06-19T06:08:23Z")

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> [@1sik bmw](#):
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> All the recent ones appear to be operator error…why cant guys just ride like a normal person

Because powerful bikes, the immortality complex of youth and inexperienced operators are a horrible combination.

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/409 "2013-06-19T06:09:12Z")

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> [@1sik bmw](#):
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> …why cant guys just ride like a normal person

Agree.

I was heading East bound on Seneca St sitting at the light at Orchard Park Road last week. A pack of riders; three sport bikes (1 tandem rider) and one cruiser, where heading northbound on OP. They where reving and beeping their horns sitting waiting for the advanced green to end. They got the green and the first two bike went…about halfway through the intersection the inside bike did the Left/Right check then goosed the throttle to ride out a…200(?) foot wheelie. Now if any of you know where this is there is a rather quick but soft Left turn in that area. He obviously knew it was there because he settled the bike down just in time but had to react to make the turn around 70-80…(another total guess. I know they move quick).

This guy knew what he was doing. But, it was just. Stupid.

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/410 "2013-06-19T06:27:38Z")

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New bikes should come out with systems like the GTR, unable to get full potential out of the bike until it GPS’s that you are on a track.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/411 "2013-06-19T06:33:15Z")

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I’m against ‘big brother’ tech in cars and bikes, but I am absolutely for more rigorious testing and training before operating a vehicle, especially bikes.

A 16 question quiz at the DMV with your smart phone in hand is all you currently need to legally get on a bike nowadays (albeit with another licesnsed operator.) That’s just silly.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/412 "2013-06-19T06:42:22Z")

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Right around the time I turned 18 is when everyone I know started riding. Most everyone got on sport bikes and most of them have been incident fee and still ride today. I can honestly say I almost find it comical that the few whove had to put bikes down, or further, suffered serious injuries, all had questionable personalities to begin with. And by questionable personalities I mean toeing the fine line between utter douchebag and impulsive morons.

You honestly should have to pass a psychological evaluation before being licensed unless youre cool with this being another form of natural selection.

I mean that with no disrespect to those whove lost someone riding nor to those who continuously ride responsibly. I personally just hear too many postmortem tales of douchbagerry to think all of these guys should have been on a bike to begin with. Lawd knows we all do dumb shit when were young but why is the lack of second chances on a bike is so commonly ignored?

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/413 "2013-06-19T06:45:30Z")

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> [@yamba6](#):
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> New bikes should come out with systems like the GTR, unable to get full potential out of the bike until it GPS’s that you are on a track.

The Bikes don’t need to be changed, the riders do.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/414 "2013-06-19T07:00:46Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> The Bikes don’t need to be changed, the riders do.

Exactly

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/415 "2013-06-19T07:02:28Z")

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[http://www.groupon.com/deals/motorcycle-safety-school-3?p=1&utm\_source=newsletter&utm\_medium=email&sid=90cb8afb-f989-467c-8a75-f5d7059f437d&division=buffalo&user=6279305017ffc46273b38e1dba281bedf473b5a125f19039b69858912e6cc06c&date=20130619&s=body&c=deal\_button&d=deal-page&utm\_campaign=motorcycle-safety-school-3](http://www.groupon.com/deals/motorcycle-safety-school-3?p=1&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&sid=90cb8afb-f989-467c-8a75-f5d7059f437d&division=buffalo&user=6279305017ffc46273b38e1dba281bedf473b5a125f19039b69858912e6cc06c&date=20130619&s=body&c=deal_button&d=deal-page&utm_campaign=motorcycle-safety-school-3)

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/416 "2013-06-19T07:04:34Z")

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msf was the best thing I ever did on a bike.

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**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/417 "2013-06-19T09:48:29Z")

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I love this New York/ American mentality of blaming and inanimate object for the actions of a person. What ever happened to that old mentality accountability for ones own actions?

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/418 "2013-06-19T09:56:02Z")

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_NYS should ban all fast cars, trucks, motorcycles, sugary substances, smoking, drinking, laughing, farting in public, and jerking off._

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/419 "2013-06-19T10:04:48Z")

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My jerking off thing went off…

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/omg-bike-crash-is-everyone-ok-2018-count/229288/420 "2013-06-19T10:10:46Z")

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> [@yamba6](#):
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> New bikes should come out with systems like the GTR, unable to get full potential out of the bike until it GPS’s that you are on a track.

NO. GO SIT IN THE CORNER.

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