# on going argument **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 9, 2004, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/on-going-argument/168248 "2004-08-09T12:56:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/on-going-argument/168248/1 "2004-08-09T12:56:02Z")
so… i’m in this ongoing argument with some vw faggorts… anyway… they are telling me that trap speed = HP and gearing plays no role… i’m told that gearing will only adjust ET and NOT traps… they claim that hp = (trap/234)^3 \* weight all i said was ET is the car and the driver… traps are the car… but i said that you could swap tranny’s or gears and change traps and they are arguing that i’m incorrect… am i? ---
**Author:** ![imported\_SINISTER](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sinister/32/5970_2.png) [@imported\_SINISTER](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_SINISTER)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/on-going-argument/168248/2 "2004-08-09T12:57:57Z")
im gonna say your right firday i ran a 13.2 at 105 and i put in the 373 gears need to drive more i know i can get lower then 13.2 but before i was running 13.7 13.6 13.5 at 105 ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/on-going-argument/168248/3 "2004-08-09T13:22:53Z")
nope, trap speed means poooooooooooooooop!!! ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/on-going-argument/168248/4 "2004-08-09T13:35:43Z")
that’s what we said on saturday, and that’s what i’ve been saying… they’re telling me that trap = hp and if you swap tranny / gears it won’t effect trap… only ET. ---
**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/on-going-argument/168248/5 "2004-08-09T13:38:24Z")
if your cars tasts the tires on the line you will get a higher trap speed…but if you hook lower trap speed… but its all about who gets to the line first…that means ET… ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/on-going-argument/168248/6 "2004-08-09T13:48:32Z")
oh for christ’s sake i know how it works!!! the question is… will a car with 200 hp and 373 gears have the same trap as a car with 200 hp with 411 gears … or any gear ratio. or any tranny setup!!! they are claiming that HP = traps…so the only way to fluctuate traps is to gain or lose HP… i’m claiming that you can swap tranny’s or gears and fluctuate traps… those guys just suck… ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/on-going-argument/168248/7 "2004-08-09T14:01:22Z")
on the same sized tires i’d be worried about running out of gear and trapping lower ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/on-going-argument/168248/8 "2004-08-09T14:04:35Z")
if u spin ur trap will be higher,u hook it will be lower,u deep stage ur trap will be lower!!! ---
**Author:** ![eurodad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eurodad/32/5988_2.png) [@eurodad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eurodad)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/on-going-argument/168248/9 "2004-08-09T14:04:44Z")
I don’t think you could change trap speed very much. maybe,MAYBE just a couple mph.(1 or 2). gear changes will make a bigger effect on e.t. unless you’re talking like 2.73 to 4.10 then you might see a few more mph. I have had two very similar trucks, some may say identicle.all the same motor mods.one had a 305 with th700 tranny and 2.73 and my current truck has a 305 with th350 and 4.10. time slips were 16.3 at 81 and my current truck has run 15.6 at 88. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_WS6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Silver\_WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver_WS6)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/on-going-argument/168248/10 "2004-08-09T15:58:08Z")
380 hp in my car trap speed 110 auto black z28’s car 320 hp trap speed 110 manual he has 342’s i have 323’s ---
**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/on-going-argument/168248/11 "2004-08-09T16:10:42Z")
> [@Silver\_WS6](#): > > 380 hp in my car trap speed 110 auto > black z28’s car 320 hp trap speed 110 manual > he has 342’s i have 323’s I don’t think that’s a perfect comparison since the tranny has different gear ratios, not just the rear end. ---
**Author:** ![BETRAYED93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BETRAYED93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BETRAYED93)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/on-going-argument/168248/12 "2004-08-09T17:16:07Z")
maybe i can shed some light on this… on my turbo six… AND my turbo pgt… i would put my 17’s with 225-45-17’s because i would trap higher… and get better et’s… because the tire overall diameter was an inch bigger causeing me to have a longer powerband… stock size tires just sucked… shorter power band… shittier times… at the 1/4 out of the band1 but then again my cars all tq… believe it or not… lol… so i had to find a way to keep the power down low in longer… i wish i had the gearing of the newer eclipes… sooo anyway this is just my own theory… my car isn t to camparable to anybody’s though 🌑