# One for the Ford guys!

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [July 11, 2007, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101 "2007-07-11T13:59:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/21 "2007-07-12T14:34:55Z")

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> [@Is Marcus an attention whore?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-marcus-an-attention-whore/31315/11):
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> like your gtp?

waaaaatch it!

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/22 "2007-07-12T16:32:33Z")

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> [@The baby blue shark hood neon tried chasing me down...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-baby-blue-shark-hood-neon-tried-chasing-me-down/30686/733):
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> waaaaatch it!

shut it

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**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/23 "2007-07-12T17:39:56Z")

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race? 😃

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**Author:** ![mopar\_steve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c5a1d2/32.png) [@mopar\_steve](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mopar_steve)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/24 "2007-07-12T19:41:09Z")

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Stay away from that dealer unless you, yourself, personally inspects the car and drives it. “Dr. Dave”, as he is known up here, Has screwed over many including a soldier in Iraq who thought he was buying his dream car. He came home to a barely running bondo buggy.

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**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/25 "2007-07-13T08:44:05Z")

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GTP…haha…fuck that car…just a decent DD for me that is somewhat quick. N/A power\>FI power…fact is ford has a hard time building N/A motors that run strong…so they slap on a S/C.

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**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/26 "2007-07-13T09:59:57Z")

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> [@Shredd & Ragan Summit Mall cruise in the news](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/shredd-ragan-summit-mall-cruise-in-the-news/31263/34):
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> fact is ford has a hard time building N/A motors that run strong…so they slap on a S/C.

Hey, whatever works, right? I think 400+ HP out of a 281 CI is pretty respectable. 500+ out of a 330 CI? Definitely working for them.

Don’t forget the 96-98, 99, 01 Cobra Motors, and 03/04 Mach Motors. All aluminum 4.6L 32V 320 HP. Ford could build a good N/A Engine if they needed to. (And the 5.0L Cammer that Ford makes as a crate… 420 HP N/A!)

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/27 "2007-07-13T10:18:21Z")

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> [@Shredd & Ragan Summit Mall cruise in the news](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/shredd-ragan-summit-mall-cruise-in-the-news/31263/34):
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> GTP…haha…fuck that car…just a decent DD for me that is somewhat quick. N/A power\>FI power…fact is ford has a hard time building N/A motors that run strong…so they slap on a S/C.

look up the most powerful muscle car motor and let me know what it is?

ford has no problem with NA power and chose a better route in FI.

FI\>NA

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**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/28 "2007-07-13T12:00:35Z")

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If ford builds these great N/A motor why does the LS1 hand every 99-02 GT & Cobras their ass

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**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/29 "2007-07-13T12:45:06Z")

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race my ford 🙂

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**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/30 "2007-07-13T12:46:30Z")

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> [@Stealership v.Schmitts](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stealership-v-schmitts/31329/12):
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> race my ford 🙂

OK

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/31 "2007-07-13T12:46:31Z")

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ok

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**Author:** ![7.5hotrod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/7.5hotrod/32/5993_2.png) [@7.5hotrod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/7.5hotrod)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/32 "2007-07-13T19:40:26Z")

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the s351s were pretty bad @ss

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**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/33 "2007-07-14T12:54:01Z")

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> [@Stealership v.Schmitts](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stealership-v-schmitts/31329/3):
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> If ford builds these great N/A motor why does the LS1 hand every 99-02 GT & Cobras their ass

Because Ford doesn’t jam the same motor in every car they make?

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/34 "2007-07-14T13:14:58Z")

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> [@Stealership v.Schmitts](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stealership-v-schmitts/31329/3):
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> If ford builds these great N/A motor why does the LS1 hand every 99-02 GT & Cobras their ass

Just give it a few years.

GM is still producing dinosaur motors with pushrods. There will come a day when they cannot meet the requirements for emissions and such and will have to go a different direction. Ford saw this and made the switch 15 years ago and has a big head start. Just like the camaro, the new GM motors will be too little way too late.

😃

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**Author:** ![SixSpeed454SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SixSpeed454SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SixSpeed454SS)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/35 "2007-07-14T20:42:05Z")

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> [@A way to measure our e-cocks...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-way-to-measure-our-e-cocks/31335/44):
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> Just give it a few years.
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> GM is still producing dinosaur motors with pushrods. There will come a day when they cannot meet the requirements for emissions and such and will have to go a different direction. Ford saw this and made the switch 15 years ago and has a big head start. Just like the camaro, the new GM motors will be too little way too late.
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> 😃

I’ll have to disagree with you.

The type of valvetrain really does not have much effect on the emissions. It has more to do with cylinder design & cylinder head design. The electronics will do the job of making an engine emissions compliant.

Pushrod motors will be around for a long time. Not that I am siding with GM on this, either.

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**Author:** ![Quik83Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik83z/32/6042_2.png) [@Quik83Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik83Z)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2007, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/36 "2007-07-16T15:38:35Z")

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> [@F&CK Buffalo and all the H8TERS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/f-ck-buffalo-and-all-the-h8ters/31310/95):
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> Stay away from that dealer unless you, yourself, personally inspects the car and drives it. “Dr. Dave”, as he is known up here, Has screwed over many including a soldier in Iraq who thought he was buying his dream car. He came home to a barely running bondo buggy.

Boy! Oh Boy! Have you got that right. He gave me a screwing I’ll never forget. (partially my fault as well) I almost didn’t want to post this because I didn’t want to give that faggot any advertising, but it was an awsome ride, so I posted it.

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**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/37 "2007-07-16T21:50:02Z")

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> [@Quik83Z"](#):
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> Boy! Oh Boy! Have you got that right. He gave me a screwing I’ll never forget. (partially my fault as well) I almost didn’t want to post this because I didn’t want to give that faggot any advertising, but it was an awsome ride, so I posted it.

So what’s this dude’s deal? He seemed cool when my parents and I went there to look at cars about 4 years ago…

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**Author:** ![smokeyburnouts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyburnouts/32/5987_2.png) [@smokeyburnouts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyburnouts)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/38 "2007-07-17T11:28:12Z")

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> [@A way to measure our e-cocks...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-way-to-measure-our-e-cocks/31335/44):
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> Just give it a few years.
> 
> GM is still producing dinosaur motors with pushrods. There will come a day when they cannot meet the requirements for emissions and such and will have to go a different direction. Ford saw this and made the switch 15 years ago and has a big head start. Just like the camaro, the new GM motors will be too little way too late.
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> 😃

the customers want pushrod engines. look how easy it is to do a head/cam swap on an ls1. plus, the power curve is badass, so why fix what isnt broke?

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/39 "2007-07-18T06:52:17Z")

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> [@Bought a New Jeep!!! hooray for me!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bought-a-new-jeep-hooray-for-me/31372/16):
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> the customers want pushrod engines. look how easy it is to do a head/cam swap on an ls1. plus, the power curve is badass, so why fix what isnt broke?

That’s fine for GM. I am glad ford made the switch to the new mod motors. Smaller CI, better mpg, and a lot more power.

And changing cams in a mod motor doesn’t look to hard, just take the valve covers off and there they are. 😃

The small block GM motor is a great motor and probably will be for a few more years. But like everything, this will change.

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**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/one-for-the-ford-guys/191101/40 "2007-07-18T09:11:16Z")

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I think 77 is right. Pushrods aren’t exactly new technology. Maybe not soon, but they will change some day.

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