# Open letter to riders \[bad ideas inside\]

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [October 8, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565 "2009-10-08T07:28:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![ieatpaint](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ieatpaint/32/7311_2.png) [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/21 "2009-10-08T11:02:05Z")

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omg, finally someone who knows how to ride! pm me to ride like real men.

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/22 "2009-10-08T11:21:27Z")

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> [@TsiTalon](#):
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> wet leaves dry leaves who gives a fuck ride hard and fast. leaves dont effect traction!! :banghead:

I’m hoping that was sarcasm?

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/23 "2009-10-08T11:25:13Z")

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> [@TsiTalon](#):
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> wet leaves dry leaves who gives a fuck ride hard and fast. leaves dont effect traction!! :banghead:

Affect.

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/24 "2009-10-08T12:17:39Z")

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> [@ieatpaint315](#):
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> omg, finally someone who knows how to ride! pm me to ride like real men.

yea… 50 is too cold to be pushing a bike through turns unless you have tirewarmers and are really pushing with soft compound tires…

if you’re not 100% smooth and in the right conditions, you’re risking an accident…

now, drag racing in this weather on a bike is awesome.

As for people NOT riding in this weather, im all for that too, there are enough NICE days out of the year to NOT beat yourself up on the shitty ones.

/realriders4L/

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/25 "2009-10-08T12:49:39Z")

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I was doing some thinking… 50 degrees isnt too cold…

if it is, a couple shots of jack normally warms me up pretty well, coupled with heated grips and a toasty motor… I’m normally off to the races… and by races I mean more bars along the way incase i get chilly.

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**Author:** ![ieatpaint](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ieatpaint/32/7311_2.png) [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/26 "2009-10-08T12:53:03Z")

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yes, i forgot about adding liquor to the riding equation. You could always use your cell phone in your helmet to keep your mind off being cold.

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/27 "2009-10-08T13:06:16Z")

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every .1 your BAC goes up = 10.2 F increase in outside temp feeling.

Not bad when u figure 4 shots in a 130 lb frame can get you to 62.2 F in about 30 minutes, then all you have to do is maintain it.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/28 "2009-10-08T13:14:44Z")

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Pussy, just man up and go numb.

I rode my motorcycle to school once in high school when it was 29 degrees out when I left the house. It was only a few miles but that was just plain painful.

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/29 "2009-10-08T13:17:35Z")

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when i bought my 954 i rode it to work everynight… leaving to go home at 7am or 11pm was the worst… 30 degrees sucks on a bike, but when its new and exciting… you just dont know any better.

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/30 "2009-10-08T13:29:57Z")

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Don’t lock this thread, I’m going to bump it on January 1st and get a group ride of all the Hardxcore riders together, who cares if there’s 2 feet of snow on the ground? Man up and by snow tires you fucking pussys!

Also, the ride will consist of a bar crawl of some sort, ya know…to keep us warm while riding 400mph and doing wheelies in front of newborn children walking to school.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/31 "2009-10-08T13:33:24Z")

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![http://corey.cabler.com/pics/gsxr_on_ice.jpg](http://corey.cabler.com/pics/gsxr_on_ice.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/32 "2009-10-08T13:40:53Z")

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They do a jan 1st ride almost every year on wnysr.

So crazy… i like my bike and body too much…

I might do one this year though. in shorts. and a tee. cuz im a mans man.

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**Author:** ![ieatpaint](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ieatpaint/32/7311_2.png) [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/33 "2009-10-08T13:40:56Z")

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damn, i was gonna post the stoppie on ice pic. damn u fry!

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/34 "2009-10-08T13:52:37Z")

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> [@Motocrossx23](#):
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> newborn children walking to school.

lol

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**Author:** ![Tim](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tim/32/5211_2.png) [@Tim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tim)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/35 "2009-10-08T14:14:27Z")

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Theres a dude on kawi forums that stunts his 636 on snow with snow tires.

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**Author:** ![b5a4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85e7bf/32.png) [@b5a4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/b5a4)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/36 "2009-10-08T14:21:08Z")

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[quote=“Geoff,post:2,topic:74565"”]

Darwin **will** catch up to you 🙂

[/quote]

Isn’t this your first season riding? And you already know all about cold weather :rolleyes:

[quote=“JayS,post:5,topic:74565"”]

I hope this thread doesn’t get deleted because I will be the asshole to bump it with the news article about you becoming a greasy spot on the pavement.

[/quote]

If something does happen, is it any of your fucking business? If Brian or myself wanted to go slow and be a bunch of pussies we’d drive cars and not have fun going out and pushing the limits. You get better at things by pushing your limits.

[quote=“PureXTC,post:7,topic:74565"”]

This thread sucks.

And LOL at the “hoodie”. How bout instead of a hoodie you wear your motorcycle jacket with the liner in?

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He meant a hoodie under a Leather..wouldn’t be caught riding without his leather..

[quote=“BlackedOut,post:9,topic:74565"”]

Ride fast and like a dumbass on the streets and you end up in the hospital!

Ask me how I know!?

Then you can’t ride, or work, or even drive for that matter.

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No offense Joe, you admittadly rode way above your experience on your first crash, and the crash that ended your season you got hit in a parking lot..not exactly the same thing.

[quote=“PureXTC,post:10,topic:74565"”]

How did I know you have a Gixxer?

🦑

[/quote]

Doesn’t ride a gixxer, but nice try.

[quote=“drvnkd,post:14,topic:74565"”]

Bah…  
I’ll see you out in February…  
Don’t bitch about salt either…

Edit: Who the hell cares if you go 127 mph in a straight line.  
Try going 65 when its 35 degrees and raining.

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Unfortunately Brian will be in the navy in February, but i’ll be glad to meet you for a ride 👋

[quote=“Motocrossx23,post:19,topic:74565"”]

Dumb thread.

Dare ya to ride 240 hard.

Don’t worry about the deer, leaves or cold temps.

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We will ride 240 hard…harder than you ever could, and you know this. I suggest shutting the fuck up until you learn how to not get passed by people who have been riding for 3 weeks(r6 Joe)

[quote=“Willybeen,post:25,topic:74565"”]

I was doing some thinking… 50 degrees isnt too cold…

if it is, a couple shots of jack normally warms me up pretty well, coupled with heated grips and a toasty motor… I’m normally off to the races… and by races I mean more bars along the way incase i get chilly.

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Brian is straight edge, and I never drink when riding.

[quote=“Motocrossx23,post:30,topic:74565"”]

Don’t lock this thread, I’m going to bump it on January 1st and get a group ride of all the Hardxcore riders together, who cares if there’s 2 feet of snow on the ground? Man up and by snow tires you fucking pussys!

Also, the ride will consist of a bar crawl of some sort, ya know…to keep us warm while riding 400mph and doing wheelies in front of newborn children walking to school.

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Again brian doesn’t drink. And again, I’ll gladly meet you on January 1st for a ride.

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/37 "2009-10-08T14:30:19Z")

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Lol first Joe don’t take thread this seriously. Apparently someone got their panties in a bunch.

Secondely wtf are you talking about getting passed by r6 Joe???

I can and do push 240 just as hard as anyone else, getting tickets out there and road quality are the only reasons I’m not out there anymore

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**Author:** ![b5a4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85e7bf/32.png) [@b5a4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/b5a4)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/38 "2009-10-08T14:34:07Z")

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Not true. I’ve ridden 240 with you a few times, in perfect conditions. Same with 198. And yes you are in fact slow.

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**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/39 "2009-10-08T14:44:45Z")

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:drama2:

I’m slow, I’ll admit it. There’s a time and a place for everything, but for some people that’s any time and anywhere. Remember, just because you like to push the limits and are ready to accept the consequences doesn’t mean everyone else in your life is ready.

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**Author:** ![b5a4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85e7bf/32.png) [@b5a4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/b5a4)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/open-letter-to-riders-bad-ideas-inside/74565/40 "2009-10-08T14:50:18Z")

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> [@livin4hockey](#):
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> :drama2:
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> I’m slow, I’ll admit it. There’s a time and a place for everything, but for some people that’s any time and anywhere. Remember, just because you like to push the limits and are ready to accept the consequences doesn’t mean everyone else in your life is ready.

I do agree with this, and keep in mind we aren’t exactly new at this. This is my 6th season and Brian’s 5th i think. Both put close to 20k per year on. Theres a lot of seat time between us.

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