# Opinion on Tires

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [August 14, 2006, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911 "2006-08-14T14:01:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![duckJAI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duckjai/32/5553_2.png) [@duckJAI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duckJAI)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/21 "2006-08-14T22:11:38Z")

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> [@Axlerod](#):
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> [quote=krgoodwin]5% on both sidewalls, making it 10% in total, and if i got 50’s would be 20%.
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> that correct?

No. Here: [Tire size calculator](http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html)

The FK451/2s don’t come in 15s.

The Ziex 512s are NOT sticky… they’re all season tires, and bottom end ones at that.

Privided you’re looking for good treadlife and a sticky tire, you’re on the right track with the AVS ES100, but like I said, look into the gForce Sport. The Proxes 4 is also worth looking at.[/quote]

oh ya he has 15s, i forgot.

but still the 452 are stickier than the ES100s. i would try a different tire than the ES100s because they are like 8yrs old.

and the 512…the sidewall is like jello, but the 512 do make great smoke tho.

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**Author:** ![krgoodwin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krgoodwin/32/5559_2.png) [@krgoodwin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/krgoodwin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/22 "2006-08-14T22:54:40Z")

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> [@Axlerod](#):
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> like I said, look into the gForce Sport. The Proxes 4 is also worth looking at.

I dont know if mike can get BF goodrich or toyo, but i’l ask him about it.

thanks for the link too.

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**Author:** ![alesserfate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@alesserfate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/alesserfate)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/23 "2006-08-14T23:58:09Z")

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they are ok if you are light track and daily driver, get 205/60/15, 205/55 and lower all looks like pussy especially on stock suspension, if you got coils 205/55/15 is good… cool

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**Author:** ![shlammed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@shlammed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/shlammed)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/24 "2006-08-15T17:30:19Z")

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you will laugh at me but i have goodyear assurance tires 205/60/15 on my 240 and they are superior tires… they grip like crazy in the strights AND the corners. My 240 unless i rev it out to redline and clutch dump wont spin them very well… they grip.

i can directly compare them to michilin pilots and the ride is more plush but you maintain the grip in the corners.

and to top it all off they have a 750 treadwear:) 150 000km anyone?

-Matt

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**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/25 "2006-08-15T17:52:17Z")

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i call bullshit on the grippy 750 treadwear tires

that or you’ve never driven on a proper tire before

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**Author:** ![duckJAI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duckjai/32/5553_2.png) [@duckJAI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duckJAI)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/26 "2006-08-15T18:36:50Z")

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750 treadwear?

do u know why PERFORMANCE tires are low treadwear? because they grip like a MOFO

advans…azenis…they are all like 100treadwear or less. the reason? grip.

u can’t have good grip and high treadwear.

if im wrong, pls correct me…but from my knowledge i think im correct.

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**Author:** ![cloudzero3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@cloudzero3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cloudzero3)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/27 "2006-08-15T19:11:44Z")

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> [@Jammin1911](#):
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> i call bullshit on the grippy 750 treadwear tires
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> that or you’ve never driven on a proper tire before

x2

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**Author:** ![Skinny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skinny/32/5584_2.png) [@Skinny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skinny)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/28 "2006-08-15T22:33:46Z")

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i can vouch for these tires!! i have riden in this car and it grips like mad!! serosuly these won’t spin! and i have great tires on mine soo i know what i’m talking about!! these are good tires

and i’d check and see if u can get federal 205_55_15 federals are cheap and meant for drifting!! and a guy has a deal on them in the fs tread!

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**Author:** ![krgoodwin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krgoodwin/32/5559_2.png) [@krgoodwin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/krgoodwin)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/29 "2006-08-15T22:52:30Z")

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yea but the ES100’s are in london, and i need them by friday.

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**Author:** ![cloudzero3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@cloudzero3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cloudzero3)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/30 "2006-08-16T06:08:43Z")

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> [@Skinny](#):
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> i can vouch for these tires!! i have riden in this car and it grips like mad!! serosuly these won’t spin! and i have great tires on mine soo i know what i’m talking about!! these are good tires

stock 240sx’s are barely capable of making the shittiest tires spin…

mine is stock and i have to dump the clutch on a start if i want wheelspin… and i have tires that i found in a junkyard on the back right now, soooo…

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**Author:** ![roast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/roast/32/5498_2.png) [@roast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/roast)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/31 "2006-08-16T06:59:03Z")

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Be careful when playing with tire sizes and running ABS brakes.

If you are over/under 3% of the stock tire size the ABS system may malfunction. I don’t know the details but that is what I was warned about when looking for my tires. (225-245/50/16)

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**Author:** ![cgguy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cgguy/32/5508_2.png) [@cgguy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cgguy)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/32 "2006-08-16T07:10:25Z")

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> [@Skinny](#):
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> federals are cheap and meant for drifting!!

Federals are cheap because they are a discount tire manufacturer based in China. These claims that they are “meant for drifting” is nothing more than a marketing scheme aimed at the tuner crowd that no other tire maker has jumped on.

You get what you pay for. The ES100 has been used as the benchmark “low cost” Ultra High Performance tire on the TireRack for the last 2 years. Its proven and a great tire for the money.

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**Author:** ![krgoodwin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krgoodwin/32/5559_2.png) [@krgoodwin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/krgoodwin)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/33 "2006-08-16T09:52:29Z")

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super ghey! the yoko’s are backordered, 6-8 weeks delivery. the best i can do on this short notice is Bridgestone Potenza G009.

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**Author:** ![Theo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Theo23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Theo23)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-on-tires/98911/34 "2006-08-16T11:43:14Z")

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depends what you are loking for… drift, grip, daily with a little bit of performance…

I have been through a gazzillion tires…  
Some thrends that I see:

ES100’s are great for every day driving with good performance.  
ES100’s are great for an intermediate grip tire.  
ES100’s are shit for drift, they fly apart when getting close to the wear bars, before that point they are not too bad but they get there fast.

Dunlop SP8000’s are great for daily  
SP8000’s are not the greatest for grip, but will provide some stick.  
SP8000’s are the best tire I’ve ever drifted on!! I love these things, wish I could find more!! they wear so evenly, and consistently right down to the cords. Better grip than your average drift slut tire.

Toyo TPT not the stickiest of tire, but good for your average street tire.  
TPT’s wear like the Dunlops, very evenly, right down to the cords. No chunking at all.  
TPT’s are good for drift if you are close to stock power, not a ton of grip, but a predictable tire.

FZ4’s same as the TPT’s but a little more grippy.

I have more I can post up later on.

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