# opinion: response to disaster relief (please..no political debate) **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 16, 2005, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094 "2005-09-16T06:16:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/21 "2005-09-16T10:40:46Z")
> [@77rednecktruck](#): > > N.O. was just a really fucked up situation. You have horrible local goverment, horrible state wide goverment, and (well, we all know how I feel about the president). Plus the fact that it’s underground and then on top of all of that, throw in some really fucked up people looting and shooting guns at rescue workers. I think if a terrorist attack happenend, it would be handled 11ty billion times different than how N.O. was handled. > > hopefully, we learned from this and make things better ❌ I don’t feel like typing But I will agree with this to a point… Reguardless of who was president of the US, this situation was a going to be FUBAR’d. FEMA came in last year did a synopsis of this and after all said and done the residents living there are as much to blame. THEY KNEW it was coming and they did not enough to nothing. Sorry but you can’t fault anyone in the federal government as the primary fuckup when the local levels didn’t do shit to begin with. You are a sub sea-level city on the ocean where hurricanes happen every year. Its just like playing russian rulette. eventually your luck is going to run out and you have to deal with it. Shifting blame around to a single individual is absolutly bullshit. TRYING TO turn it into a racial thng like that fucking ashhole racist Jesse Jackson is even more dispicable. That mother fucker should be drowned with the weight of the nation on his head. Reguardless of what people think, the national guard does not sit around all day and wait for emergencies. Bases and personnel are doing stuff on a day to day basis and are always working. You only see them physically on TV in action when somthing like this happens. So to say they should have been positioned down there prior to the hurricane happening is not a realistic option. Especially when the local governemnt is responsible for evacuation plans. This all goes along with speration of federal and state governments. No matter how people want to skew the topic, the majority of the blame should be on City Officals, Then the STATE officals, then the FEDERAL government. On a side note since its already been mentioned once, I personally think the next person to mention race as a determining factor in anything like this especially NATURAL DISASTERS should be shot in the fucking head. Its time to get over the race thing, especially when its ok to have benifits and perks when you are a certian race like scholerships, and holidays and so forth, but as soon as somthing bad happens its a racially charged injustice. FUCK YOU AND FUCK RACE IN GENERAL! ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/22 "2005-09-16T10:42:25Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > I don’t feel like typing But I will agree with this to a point… > > Reguardless of who was president of the US, this situation was a going to be FUBAR’d. FEMA came in last year did a synopsis of this and after all said and done the residents living there are as much to blame. THEY KNEW it was coming and they did not enough to nothing. Sorry but you can’t fault anyone in the federal government as the primary fuckup when the local levels didn’t do shit to begin with. > > You are a sub sea-level city on the ocean where hurricanes happen every year. Its just like playing russian rulette. eventually your luck is going to run out and you have to deal with it. Shifting blame around to a single individual is absolutly bullshit. TRYING TO turn it into a racial thng like that fucking ashhole racist Jesse Jackson is even more dispicable. That mother fucker should be drowned with the weight of the nation on his head. > > Reguardless of what people think, the national guard does not sit around all day and wait for emergencies. Bases and personnel are doing stuff on a day to day basis and are always working. You only see them physically on TV in action when somthing like this happens. So to say they should have been positioned down there prior to the hurricane happening is not a realistic option. Especially when the local governemnt is responsible for evacuation plans. > > This all goes along with speration of federal and state governments. No matter how people want to skew the topic, the majority of the blame should be on City Officals, Then the STATE officals, then the government. > > On a side note since its already been mentioned once, I personally think the next person to mention race as a determining factor in anything like this especially NATURAL DISASTERS should be shot in the fucking head. Its time to get over the race thing, especially when its ok to have benifits and perks when you are a certian race like scholerships, and holidays and so forth, but as soon as somthing bad happens its a racially charged injustice. > > FUCK YOU AND FUCK RACE IN GENERAL! x99999999999999999 great post ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/23 "2005-09-16T10:43:23Z")
> [@77rednecktruck](#): > > x99999999999999999 > > great post see I don;t think you are a total idiot. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/24 "2005-09-16T10:47:00Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > see I don;t think you are a total idiot. 😃 we just disagree on a lot of topics, it’s all in good fun. damn, i’m starting to sound like a vw love em all hippie now. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/25 "2005-09-16T10:49:48Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > it’s not OK to ‘let’ anyone die… > > if it’s unforseeable and they didn’t do dick to help themselves, then fuck’em > > i don’t think that bush, or whomever you’re blaming, ‘let’ anyone die or be stranded. > > i know that the weather service ‘let’ them know that a huge fuckin hurricane was coming and i know that the city of new orleans ‘let’ their public know that the town cannot withstand a big ass hurricane… > > i was down there in the historical district and they even have a plaque and shit stating that if the city were to flood it would be disasterous (it was explaining the fact that it’s under sea level) > > who says i’m a republican? or compassionate for that matter? I dont think the federal government really should adopt a “ehhh…fuck 'em” attitude. The people down there are as much americans as you and I are. I didnt say you were republican. But you certainly seem to be overwhelmingly conservative. and we all know you’re not compassionate. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/26 "2005-09-16T10:57:26Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > I don’t feel like typing But I will agree with this to a point… > > Reguardless of who was president of the US, this situation was a going to be FUBAR’d. FEMA came in last year did a synopsis of this and after all said and done the residents living there are as much to blame. THEY KNEW it was coming and they did not enough to nothing. Sorry but you can’t fault anyone in the federal government as the primary fuckup when the local levels didn’t do shit to begin with. > > You are a sub sea-level city on the ocean where hurricanes happen every year. Its just like playing russian rulette. eventually your luck is going to run out and you have to deal with it. Shifting blame around to a single individual is absolutly bullshit. TRYING TO turn it into a racial thng like that fucking ashhole racist Jesse Jackson is even more dispicable. That mother fucker should be drowned with the weight of the nation on his head. > > Reguardless of what people think, the national guard does not sit around all day and wait for emergencies. Bases and personnel are doing stuff on a day to day basis and are always working. You only see them physically on TV in action when somthing like this happens. So to say they should have been positioned down there prior to the hurricane happening is not a realistic option. Especially when the local governemnt is responsible for evacuation plans. > > This all goes along with speration of federal and state governments. No matter how people want to skew the topic, the majority of the blame should be on City Officals, Then the STATE officals, then the FEDERAL government. > > On a side note since its already been mentioned once, I personally think the next person to mention race as a determining factor in anything like this especially NATURAL DISASTERS should be shot in the fucking head. Its time to get over the race thing, especially when its ok to have benifits and perks when you are a certian race like scholerships, and holidays and so forth, but as soon as somthing bad happens its a racially charged injustice. > > FUCK YOU AND FUCK RACE IN GENERAL! the President of the United States is very much to blame for the horrific response. He’s been spending billions of your and my tax dollars and touted the US as becoming extremely prepared for an event such as this. And then it happens and we perform horribly. We even had a heads up with this one. We’ve known for years that this could happen so evacuation plans should have been in place. And we knew for days that a storm of a lifetime was heading at N.O., so we should have implemented said evacuation plans. However, we didnt. A terrorist attack would not have that luxury. Im not saying that the state and local govt’s werent also responsible, but they were more responsible for the pre-hurricane shit. Once the shit hit the fan they really couldnt do shit. We have an entire federal (what used to be cabinet level) agency dedicated to nothing but emergencies such as this. And then when it comes time for them to perform, they fail miserably. Why did they fail? we dont know exactly yet, but putting one of your old cronies that has NO emergency management experience as the head of FEMA is pretty fucking retarded, especially in the post-9/11 era. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/27 "2005-09-16T11:03:15Z")
Get your head out of your ass. You really make me fucking sick. Your just so against fucking bush you can’t focus anywhere other than that. That is the cold hard fucking truth. This isn’t some fucking equasion like dumping clorine into a fucking pool. Christ when you have people being forced to evacuate by officals with guns, there is a fucking problem. This blame starts solely locally then works its way up. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/28 "2005-09-16T11:54:02Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > the President of the United States is very much to blame for the horrific response. He’s been spending billions of your and my tax dollars and touted the US as becoming extremely prepared for an event such as this. And then it happens and we perform horribly. We even had a heads up with this one. We’ve known for years that this could happen so evacuation plans should have been in place. And we knew for days that a storm of a lifetime was heading at N.O., so we should have implemented said evacuation plans. However, we didnt. A terrorist attack would not have that luxury. Im not saying that the state and local govt’s werent also responsible, but they were more responsible for the pre-hurricane shit. Once the shit hit the fan they really couldnt do shit. We have an entire federal (what used to be cabinet level) agency dedicated to nothing but emergencies such as this. And then when it comes time for them to perform, they fail miserably. Why did they fail? we dont know exactly yet, but putting one of your old cronies that has NO emergency management experience as the head of FEMA is pretty fucking retarded, especially in the post-9/11 era. wow… all i read was your bullshit about evac plans… do you know an evac plan was created and tested in 1998 and revisioned in 2001 and TESTED LAST YEAR. ontop of that… guess who’s call it is to execute the evacuation plan… the douche bag mayor. when i get time to read the rest and sns’s post and you’re other… i’ll be back. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/29 "2005-09-16T12:03:04Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > Its time to get over the race thing, especially when its ok to have benifits and perks when you are a certian race like scholerships, and holidays and so forth, but as soon as somthing bad happens its a racially charged injustice. you have a lot to learn…there are reasons why there are things like scholarships for minorities, afirmative action, awards for minorites, BET, etc… just like someone a while back bitched about BET& said there should be no such thing (& i think said it was racist to have it)…there is a reason why there is a “black/minority” TV channel. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/30 "2005-09-16T12:06:21Z")
like i said…i’m not trying to point the finger & talk about preventative stuff…i’m talking aftermath of a disaster, wiether it be natural or terroristic. as far as handling the aftermath we look in bad shape…i hope katrina was just a rare occasional slip-up ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/31 "2005-09-16T12:40:05Z")
> [@showtime](#): > > you have a lot to learn…there are reasons why there are things like scholarships for minorities, afirmative action, awards for minorites, BET, etc… > > just like someone a while back bitched about BET& said there should be no such thing (& i think said it was racist to have it)…there is a reason why there is a “black/minority” TV channel. oh my god… you’re hilarious. i would LOVE to ‘learn’ what exactly those reasons are… please educate me. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/32 "2005-09-16T12:44:53Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > oh my god… you’re hilarious. > > i would LOVE to ‘learn’ what exactly those reasons are… > > please educate me. x2 all those programs do is promote racism ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/33 "2005-09-16T12:52:24Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > oh my god… you’re hilarious. > > i would LOVE to ‘learn’ what exactly those reasons are… > > please educate me. if your so nieve to think that without those things that everyone would be considered equal(race, gender, etc…) your ignorant i’m not pro afirmative action, i wish we didn’t need it…but without it there are a ton of monirites & women who be be overlooked for a lesser qualified white male same with scholarships & the reason there is BET is because “WET” is like every other channel on TV…except the WB. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/34 "2005-09-16T12:55:01Z")
> [@77rednecktruck](#): > > x2 > > all those programs do is promote racism i need to get my boy on this site…he’s latino & studied this stuff in college. he is mad knowledgable on the subject of discrimination, media & social biases, etc… ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/35 "2005-09-16T12:56:29Z")
> [@showtime](#): > > i need to get my boy on this site…he’s latino & studied this stuff in college. > > he is mad knowledgable on the subject of discrimination, media & social biases, etc… we really do not need to debate racism in depth. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/36 "2005-09-16T12:57:51Z")
> [@showtime](#): > > i need to get my boy on this site…he’s latino & studied this stuff in college. > > he is mad knowledgable on the subject of discrimination, media & social biases, etc… see dude… waht in the fuck does your boy’s nationality have to do with his knowledge or insight? you’re more racist than I am… ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/37 "2005-09-16T12:58:51Z")
> [@77rednecktruck](#): > > we really do not need to debate racism in depth. its not a debate…if you think all those programs do is promote racism then you need to learn. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/38 "2005-09-16T13:00:05Z")
> [@fshowcars](#): > > see dude… waht in the fuck does your boy’s nationality have to do with his knowledge or insight? > > you’re more racist than I am… i said he’s latino so your not like…"oh yeah some other black guy whos anti “the man” or anti white. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/39 "2005-09-16T13:01:40Z")
> [@showtime](#): > > its not a debate…if you think all those programs do is promote racism > > then you need to learn. get over it ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094/40 "2005-09-16T13:02:22Z")
> [@showtime](#): > > if your so nieve to think that without those things that everyone would be considered equal(race, gender, etc…) your ignorant > > i’m not pro afirmative action, i wish we didn’t need it…but without it there are a ton of monirites & women who be be overlooked for a lesser qualified white male > > same with scholarships > > & the reason there is BET is because “WET” is like every other channel on TV…except the WB. why do we have those things??? because balcks are so oppressed? ebcause mean old white men of the past enslaved them and it’s time to pay back? dude… europeans of the time period enslaved other europeans… asians enslaved asians… native americans enslaved other native americants… africans enslaved africans… it wasn’t a color thing… ontop of that, south america saw at least 5 fold the amount of slaves than the american did… but there is no reperations being paid in south america… there is no affirmitive action… beacuse people are past those times. actually did you know that in the latin american and south american areas, black people are known to score better on SAT’s than in america??? why is that… so many people in america state how one-sided the SAT’s are and how unfair for hte black community they are… but wtf? i just don’t get it… you play both cards… blacks should be treated equally and blacks deserve something… which is it? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinion-response-to-disaster-relief-please-no-political-debate/177094.md?page=3)