# Opinions about leasing a vehicle **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 7, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458 "2009-05-07T17:34:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458/41 "2009-05-10T09:52:03Z")
> [@92slowcivic](#): > > nativity? > > perhaps you were looking for the word naivete, or naivety, as both spellings seem to be accepted. LOL @ Spellcheck. I’m not concerned though. It is realistically my first spelling error, EVER. ---
**Author:** ![Bull49](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bull49/32/7381_2.png) [@Bull49](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bull49)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458/42 "2009-05-10T09:56:32Z")
> [@Beck](#): > > LOL @ Spellcheck. > > I’m not concerned though. It is realistically my first spelling error, EVER. as long as it’s the first, you have my apologies. ot: leasing is rarely, although not never, worth it. ---
**Author:** ![psychopjv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psychopjv/32/7251_2.png) [@psychopjv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psychopjv)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458/43 "2009-05-10T10:05:34Z")
Leasing the TL for me has worked out fantastic. She knows she has to get rid of it when it’s over, which is fine. By 3 years she wants to upgrade her lifestyle anyways. It hasn’t been a problem for us at all. Sure she could have done the used thing as stated, but she enjoys driving a new vehicle every 3 years. ---
**Author:** ![slasky](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slasky/32/7408_2.png) [@slasky](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slasky)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458/44 "2009-05-10T10:43:54Z")
I have leased two vehicles and made out pretty well on both. It was even cheaper for me to lease and then buy one vehicle than it was to buy it outright. If you catch the right incentives, you can get an incredible deal. My friend leased a hummer for under $200 a month and that was before gas hit $4 a gallon. His lease was up during the high gas prices so he just turned it in. The only down side to a lease is the millage. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458/45 "2009-05-10T17:28:26Z")
> [@Beck](#): > > I am an F&I guy, you schlep. In NY state (or other states that follow CA - emission laws) the warranty is 10/150k. It’s been that way for a couple years. You should probably know what you’re talking about before you broadcast your nativity on the internet for the whole world to see. Good job trying to throw me under the bus and make me look like I’m clueless. :tup: Sorry I don’t live in NY. So I was going off what I know and what is nationally published. I didn’t see any asterisk on the website. I wasn’t trying to throw you under the bus, just friendly jabs. After looking up AT-PZEV rules it looks it is 15/150,000 miles correct? As for my second part of my post, do you know at what percentage of normal capacity the battery has to be running at in order to get a replacement under warranty or is it just failure? ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458/46 "2009-05-10T18:30:43Z")
> [@BigRon](#): > > Sorry I don’t live in NY. So I was going off what I know and what is nationally published. I didn’t see any asterisk on the website. I wasn’t trying to throw you under the bus, just friendly jabs. > After looking up AT-PZEV rules it looks it is 15/150,000 miles correct? > > As for my second part of my post, do you know at what percentage of normal capacity the battery has to be running at in order to get a replacement under warranty or is it just failure? Its a 10/150 warranty. I’ve never heard of a 15/150. :gotme: “Toyota claims that the battery packs used in all Prius models are expected to last the life of the car with very little to no degradation in power capability. For those of us who have cell phones and other devices with NiMH batteries, that claim may sound unrealistic. Over time, the battery’s charge longevity seems to wane, resulting in shorter and shorter usage between charges. Eventually, the battery becomes worthless and we buy a replacement. But in the case of most electronic devices, the batteries tend to get fully charged, then nearly fully discharged before being charged again. For the power pack in the Prius, at least, Toyota says this would greatly shorten the life span of the battery. To get maximum life out of the Prius battery pack, the car’s computer brain does not allow the battery to fully charge or discharge. Toyota says that for the best service life, the Prius battery likes to be kept at about a 60 percent charge. In normal operation, the system usually lets the charge level vary only 10-15 percentage points. Therefore, the battery is rarely more than 75 percent charged, or less than 45 percent charged. If you’re familiar with the Prius, you know there’s a battery-charge indicator on the instrument panel. Toyota says this isn’t the charge level per se, but rather a state-of-charge window. The top of the window represents about a 75 percent charge, the bottom about 45 percent charge. According to Toyota, the life of the Prius battery pack is determined more by mileage than by time, and it has been tested to 180,000 miles. Supporting this are first- and second-generation Prius taxis in Canada that have reportedly traveled more than 200,000 miles without suffering any battery problems.” Other than accidents, Toyota has never had to replace a battery due to wearing out. This dates back to 00-01 when the Prius began production. The only replacement batteries that have been retailed to dealerships are for those in which have been involved in car accidents. I do believe hearing that a eight year old first gen prius did have a major battery failure out of warranty (it had 256k on it) and Toyota gave the owner a new Prius in exchange for their inoperable one. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458/47 "2009-05-10T20:37:55Z")
You work at the dealership so you would know but I can’t find anything online to confirm the 10/150. Does Toyota publish this anywhere? Sorry to keep going off topic but warrantys are a huge part of what I do. Here is the 15/150 info I keep finding everywhere for the PZEV "Partial Zero Emission Vehicle (PZEV): To obtain a PZEV rating, a car must meet SULEV standards, have zero evaporative emissions, and have a 15 year, 150,000 warranty. Advanced Technology Partial Zero Emission Vehicle (AT PZEV): To get this rating, a car has to meet all of the above requirements, plus have advanced technology, such as a plug-in hybrid or an engine that runs on compressed natural gas" > **[Car News, Reviews, & Pricing for Environmentally-Friendly Vehicles - Autoblog...](https://www.autoblog.com/green/)** > > Get up-to-the-minute environmentally-friendly (or egregiously unfriendly) car news, reviews, high-quality photos and commentary about living green. ---
**Author:** ![double\_j](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/double_j/32/7380_2.png) [@double\_j](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/double_j)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458/48 "2009-05-10T21:59:03Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > do you get a warranty on your straightness for being a guy driving a prius? :mamoru: Did your 400HP SUV come with a coupon for free penis extension surgery? I just kind of re-worded what you said. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458/49 "2009-05-10T22:09:34Z")
you also managed to unfunny it. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458/50 "2009-05-10T22:23:40Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > you also managed to unfunny it. I found the problem…see the link in his sig. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458/51 "2009-05-11T04:59:51Z")
> [@BigRon](#): > > You work at the dealership so you would know but I can’t find anything online to confirm the 10/150. > Does Toyota publish this anywhere? > Sorry to keep going off topic but warrantys are a huge part of what I do. > > Here is the 15/150 info I keep finding everywhere for the PZEV > > "Partial Zero Emission Vehicle (PZEV): To obtain a PZEV rating, a car must meet SULEV standards, have zero evaporative emissions, and have a 15 year, 150,000 warranty. > > Advanced Technology Partial Zero Emission Vehicle (AT PZEV): To get this rating, a car has to meet all of the above requirements, plus have advanced technology, such as a plug-in hybrid or an engine that runs on compressed natural gas" > [Autoblog Sitemap](http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/04/22/your-guide-to-emissions-standards/) Toyota publishes it in their state specific warranty clauses. In the link you posted earlier that listed the warranty for prius you see “coverage may vary from state to state: see warranty owners book for more information” ---
**Author:** ![DelfinAshley](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/delfinashley/32/3401_2.png) [@DelfinAshley](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DelfinAshley)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458/52 "2013-05-23T00:35:35Z")
If you want to enjoy car experience in less cost then I suggest you to move on for car leasing. I don’t think that should get 9 out of 10 bad points. If you are choosing a car and decide to lease it after all checking and OK automobile report then why it will go bad. I guess [economy car leasing](http://www.economy-car-leasing.co.uk/) is an affordable option for now. Go for it !!! ---
**Author:** ![Discosteak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/discosteak/32/6252_2.png) [@Discosteak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Discosteak)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458/53 "2013-05-23T01:07:11Z")
bumping a 4 year old thread for garbage advise. SMDH [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-about-leasing-a-vehicle/67458.md?page=2)