# Opinions are like A$$holes we all got em. **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 28, 2006, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639 "2006-02-28T10:45:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![FourGee6Tee3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b5ac83/32.png) [@FourGee6Tee3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FourGee6Tee3)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/41 "2006-02-28T18:14:58Z")
> [@fmfkid250](#): > > understand loss because of the awd, is that it? Pretty Much Lets stop bitchin everyone we are admiring got where they did learning and discussing not arguing I am not with out sin (no pun intended) but I don’t like it when people talk out of thier ass. How about that EJ20? ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/42 "2006-02-28T18:19:43Z")
[http://videos.streetfire.net/video/FF405C52-2420-4789-81D9-5BCCDAB95E41.htm](http://videos.streetfire.net/video/FF405C52-2420-4789-81D9-5BCCDAB95E41.htm) hope this motivates everyone to get started on shit, i know it worked for me ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/43 "2006-02-28T18:27:36Z")
times on last two runs? ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/44 "2006-02-28T18:34:40Z")
drooooollllllll…i want a k series bad. Seems like a hell of a lot of work to swap though. ---
**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/45 "2006-02-28T18:45:56Z")
> [@fmfkid250](#): > > what i truly dont understand is why you see dsms running 22-25 psi only maken high 3 low 400 hp and u see a honda running 22-25 you get 500-550, i understand loss because of the awd, is that it? Because most of them use lower compression, a lot of them are still Mass Air cars, which is also a big restriction. Tuning software also has a lot to do with it. Most DSM guys settle on DSMlinks, Eprom tunes, AFC’s and other ECU “bandaids” if you will. And yes, the AWDrivetrain loss doesnt help either. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/46 "2006-02-28T19:08:02Z")
> [@fmfkid250](#): > > its sam…it happens all the time, > what i truly dont understand is why you see dsms running 22-25 psi only maken high 3 low 400 hp and u see a honda running 22-25 you get 500-550, i understand loss because of the awd, is that it? honda’s dont’ run 7.8:1 compression ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/47 "2006-02-28T19:09:16Z")
> [@unicorn](#): > > Because most of them use lower compression, a lot of them are still Mass Air cars, which is also a big restriction. Tuning software also has a lot to do with it. Most DSM guys settle on DSMlinks, Eprom tunes, AFC’s and other ECU “bandaids” if you will. And yes, the AWDrivetrain loss doesnt help either. until you build a dsm that’s faster than all those bandaid cars you really can’t say anything. ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/48 "2006-02-28T19:09:38Z")
> [@unicorn](#): > > Because most of them use lower compression, a lot of them are still Mass Air cars, which is also a big restriction. Tuning software also has a lot to do with it. Most DSM guys settle on DSMlinks, Eprom tunes, AFC’s and other ECU “bandaids” if you will. And yes, the AWDrivetrain loss doesnt help either. ahh i see ---
**Author:** ![ZEX350Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/87869e/32.png) [@ZEX350Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ZEX350Z)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/49 "2006-02-28T19:10:26Z")
Does AEM make a plug’n play for DSM? ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/50 "2006-02-28T19:11:20Z")
> [@T70\_Tsi](#): > > honda’s dont’ run 7.8:1 compression yea i figured that too, 7.8…wow thats low…i was like 8.4 @ 15psi and i was trappen 126+ i have no idea what kind of power it put down ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/51 "2006-02-28T19:13:02Z")
my motor is 8.3:1 now ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/52 "2006-02-28T19:14:32Z")
> [@T70\_Tsi](#): > > until you build a dsm that’s faster than all those bandaid cars you really can’t say anything. you do realize that he has gone 11.0 on ET streets with his old stock block car right? ---
**Author:** ![STEELCITYEVO8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@STEELCITYEVO8](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEELCITYEVO8)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/53 "2006-02-28T19:16:01Z")
aem makes plugnplay for the evo so u would think that they would for dsm ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/54 "2006-02-28T19:16:39Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > you do realize that he has gone 11.0 on ET streets with his old stock block car right? he said dsm ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/55 "2006-02-28T19:18:29Z")
> [@fmfkid250](#): > > he said dsm read sammy read 💤 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/56 "2006-02-28T19:19:15Z")
> [@unicorn](#): > > Because most of them use lower compression, a lot of them are still Mass Air cars, which is also a big restriction. Tuning software also has a lot to do with it. Most DSM guys settle on DSMlinks, Eprom tunes, AFC’s and other ECU “bandaids” if you will. And yes, the AWDrivetrain loss doesnt help either. you would be suprised at how high compression is on the faster DSM cars. I believe the AMS cars are around 9:1. Mass Air is a restriction as is AWD but not a 200whp restriction. fact is that DSM motors are stout from the factory since they are iron but the other stuff that fails inside the motor is what makes them unreliable. you have to look at head design when you start comparing HP at XXX boost. much like your 240, it couldn’t make any more power on those stock cams because it couldn’t breathe anymore, you swaped cams and picked up 50hp at the same boost level. If we are talking motor design I would say the most efficient head is goin to be from honda cams and all. now on the bottom end side the 4g63 and SR20 are goin to be on top of the list. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/57 "2006-02-28T19:19:49Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > you do realize that he has gone 11.0 on ET streets with his old stock block car right? i dont’ care what his 240 ran i said until he builds a dsm that’s quicker to not make assumptions there are 600+whp cars out there on dsmlink i really woulnt want to pick fights calling it a bandaid ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/58 "2006-02-28T19:21:31Z")
> [@T70\_Tsi](#): > > i dont’ care what his 240 ran i said until he builds a dsm that’s quicker to not make assumptions there are 600+whp cars out there on dsmlink i really woulnt want to pick fights calling it a bandaid it is a bandaid… 600whp hunks of shit that break 99% of the time. a vpc gcc would be better than that shit ass dsmlink ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/59 "2006-02-28T19:24:47Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > it is a bandaid… 600whp hunks of shit that break 99% of the time. a vpc gcc would be better than that shit ass dsmlink you’re right whatever dood. ---
**Author:** ![STEELCITYEVO8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@STEELCITYEVO8](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEELCITYEVO8)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/60 "2006-02-28T19:25:06Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > If we are talking motor design I would say the most efficient head is goin to be from honda cams and all. now on the bottom end side the 4g63 and SR20 are goin to be on top of the list. +1 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639.md?page=4)