# Opinions are like A$$holes we all got em. **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 28, 2006, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639 "2006-02-28T10:45:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/61 "2006-02-28T19:25:50Z")
stop the interweb,sammy’s speeking ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/62 "2006-02-28T19:26:57Z")
> [@pewterss](#): > > stop the interweb,sammy’s speeking what is speeking? ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/63 "2006-02-28T19:31:25Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > what is speeking? out his ass ---
**Author:** ![FourGee6Tee3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b5ac83/32.png) [@FourGee6Tee3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FourGee6Tee3)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/64 "2006-02-28T19:32:22Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > it is a bandaid… 600whp hunks of shit that break 99% of the time. a vpc gcc would be better than that shit ass dsmlink Man you don’t cease to amaze me. Instead of typing the first stupid thing that comes to your head. Relax take a deep breathe and think about what you are writing. Yes AEM makes EMS for 1g and 2g dsm. ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/65 "2006-02-28T19:34:08Z")
> [@pewterss](#): > > stop the interweb,sammy’s speeking :bowrofl: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/66 "2006-02-28T19:50:33Z")
> [@shaggy](#): > > :bowrofl: haha he spelled it the way I did thinking I spelled it right…bwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/67 "2006-02-28T19:52:42Z")
> [@BoostedITR41](#): > > haha he spelled it the way I did thinking I spelled it right…bwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh u spelled it the same way i did :tool: ---
**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/68 "2006-02-28T21:41:36Z")
> [@T70\_Tsi](#): > > i dont’ care what his 240 ran i said until he builds a dsm that’s quicker to not make assumptions there are 600+whp cars out there on dsmlink i really woulnt want to pick fights calling it a bandaid I’m not picking a fight. Why must you always take shit so personally? DSMlink is a piggyback or bandaid system which more or less tricks the stock ECU into your desired a/f ratio and misc other tuning. Yes people have had success with it, but it’s mostly only the hardcore DSM tuners that do. Run what you want, who gives a fuck what I think. I’m going back to sleep now 💤 ---
**Author:** ![Dominator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Dominator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dominator)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/69 "2006-02-28T22:27:05Z")
Turbo III mopar. Minus the shitty head. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/70 "2006-03-01T06:13:50Z")
> [@unicorn](#): > > I’m not picking a fight. Why must you always take shit so personally? DSMlink is a piggyback or bandaid system which more or less tricks the stock ECU into your desired a/f ratio and misc other tuning. Yes people have had success with it, but it’s mostly only the hardcore DSM tuners that do. > > Run what you want, who gives a fuck what I think. I’m going back to sleep now 💤 i dont’ think you know what dsmlink is…it’s not tricking the stock ecu it IS the ecu there’s no trickery it’s not a piggyback like an afc or a translator or anything like that ---
**Author:** ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/71 "2006-03-01T07:59:01Z")
> [@burnyd](#): > > 4age is a great motor… lots of potential most of the corolla guys who really mod there car bring the redline in that thing around 11k + > > 2zzge isnt a bad motor ethier for being 180hp na. > > as far as the 3sgte it has the most potential out of all toyota 4 cyl. theres a few 1000 hp mr2s around [mr2oc.com](http://mr2oc.com). the 2zz sucks as far as modding potential goes, i used to have one, id rather have a 1zz and boost it ---
**Author:** ![brokeasskorean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/72 "2006-03-01T08:17:11Z")
3s-ge motor is probably one of the best ever…/thread oh yea, and dsmlink sucks…w00p ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/73 "2006-03-01T08:31:54Z")
> [@brokeasskorean](#): > > 3s-ge motor is probably one of the best ever…/thread > > oh yea, and dsmlink sucks…w00p :boink ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/74 "2006-03-01T08:41:40Z")
why don’t we ask gray05… i’m sure he knows…whatever 4banger he has own was probably the best ever :dunno: ---
**Author:** ![lawnboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ee7513/32.png) [@lawnboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lawnboy)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/75 "2006-03-01T09:47:16Z")
crawford performance 2.6litre 😉 ---
**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/76 "2006-03-01T10:00:31Z")
> [@T70\_Tsi](#): > > i dont’ think you know what dsmlink is…it’s not tricking the stock ecu it IS the ecu there’s no trickery it’s not a piggyback like an afc or a translator or anything like that This is taken from [DSMlink.com](http://DSMlink.com) - How does DSMLink work and what are the basic components? Basically, we take your factory EPROM ECU, socket the chip, and reprogram it. Our laptop software then talks to this ECU through the standard diagnostic port located under your dash using our provided cable. We do not use the factory protocol, though. We have our own communication scheme entirely. The factory interface simply does not provide any of the features of DSMLink. **So the basic components are an EPROM chip, a cable, and some laptop software. The 1G version also includes an add-on memory board.** The adapter cable included with DSMLink is specially made for this application and incorporates features not found in other adapters. It is a chip and cable that attaches to the factory ECU and goes to a laptop, correct? How is it not a piggyback? ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/77 "2006-03-01T10:02:19Z")
becaue the eprom chip IS the ecu it’s what contains the fuel maps which you MODIFY not modify the signal going TO them. you’re not tricking the airflow to the ecu you’re telling the ecu what the airflow is. there’s a BIG difference ---
**Author:** ![Hycomp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Hycomp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hycomp)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/78 "2006-03-01T10:55:17Z")
Sounds more or less just like Chrome, Uberdata, or even hondata for the Hondas. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/79 "2006-03-01T11:09:58Z")
probably closer to hondata but it’s not a piggyback ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639/80 "2006-03-01T11:48:57Z")
> [@Hycomp](#): > > Sounds more or less just like Chrome, Uberdata, or even hondata for the Hondas. steve, it is a piggyback. there is really no chip and is just a handheld POS that manipulates signals to the stock ECU. the ones you talked about actually rewrite the program [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-are-like-a-holes-we-all-got-em/180639.md?page=5)