# Opinions/Thoughts on these headers **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 1, 2008, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242 "2008-03-01T10:34:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/1 "2008-03-01T10:34:02Z")
what are your opinions/thoughts on either one of these? header 1: ![http://www.fuzionetics.com/ebay/new/H11106S_3.jpg](http://www.fuzionetics.com/ebay/new/H11106S_3.jpg) ![http://www.fuzionetics.com/ebay/new/H11106S_4.jpg](http://www.fuzionetics.com/ebay/new/H11106S_4.jpg) ![http://www.fuzionetics.com/ebay/new/H11106S_5.jpg](http://www.fuzionetics.com/ebay/new/H11106S_5.jpg) Header 2: ![http://www.good-win-racing.com/miata/images/items/NCH.jpg](http://www.good-win-racing.com/miata/images/items/NCH.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/2 "2008-03-01T10:37:28Z")
header 1 has that funky bend at the bottom. where as header 2 has the 4 to 1 what seems to be kind of abrupt… header 1 looks like it may… flow better ---
**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/3 "2008-03-01T10:38:34Z")
header number 1 will probably produce better low end with the shorter runners, however 2 look slike you see better gains up top with the longer runners. but i cant realy say much about either without seeing the collector. the collector is where the power is made. ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/4 "2008-03-01T10:54:46Z")
collector for number 2 i cant find a picture of number 1 ![http://www.good-win-racing.com/mazda-talk/images/ncheaderd.jpg](http://www.good-win-racing.com/mazda-talk/images/ncheaderd.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/5 "2008-03-01T11:15:47Z")
Two seems like it’d flow better. ---
**Author:** ![ieatpaint](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ieatpaint/32/7311_2.png) [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/6 "2008-03-01T11:26:17Z")
4 into 1 produces more top end, tri y is for midrange. granted they are of same build quality you have to decide what power range you want. ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/7 "2008-03-01T11:32:37Z")
i dunno i want to do a lot of auto-x this year so im thinking low end tq would be better. my eventual goal is to get to 200 RWHP NA but that probably wont happen this year due to lack of after market support right now ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/8 "2008-03-01T13:14:54Z")
#1 has no merge collector. #1 looks like a cheap OBX type ebay pile of doodie. #2 appears to be of better quality and appears to be coated. My vote #2. ---
**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/9 "2008-03-01T13:34:39Z")
you will never get the lo end tq you want outta the 4cyl. so you might as well try to get as much as you can up top and learn to keep your car in the power band. header #2 for sure. ---
**Author:** ![slasky](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slasky/32/7408_2.png) [@slasky](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slasky)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/10 "2008-03-01T13:51:45Z")
Where is the turbo flange??? ---
**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/11 "2008-03-01T14:12:43Z")
#2. Long equal length primaries FTW. ---
**Author:** ![Studderin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/studderin/32/7197_2.png) [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/12 "2008-03-01T15:47:49Z")
whats the ID on the outlets? ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/13 "2008-03-01T16:54:34Z")
Get # 2 and weld a good merge on it :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/14 "2008-03-01T19:41:15Z")
> [@Studderin](#): > > whats the ID on the outlets? 2.5" and there will be no turbo of this car, i got sick of fixing things on my other car when it was turboed which is y i have this one. also #2 does not come coated they had that coated for their car but i want mine coated though ---
**Author:** ![psphinx81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/15 "2008-03-01T20:06:48Z")
#2 u can always send them out to get coated once u get them if the company doesnt sell them with that option ---
**Author:** ![Rsnake91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rsnake91/32/4996_2.png) [@Rsnake91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rsnake91)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/16 "2008-03-01T20:26:34Z")
# 2 ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/17 "2008-03-02T05:11:04Z")
#2 but it should be stepped, and cut the “collector” off and have a real one put in its place. ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/18 "2008-03-02T07:11:55Z")
so in other words neither of these lol ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/19 "2008-03-02T09:37:33Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > so in other words neither of these lol uhm, well yeah. and i know you were thinking the same thing 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242/20 "2008-03-02T12:41:02Z")
oh definitely lol. I wasn’t being a jerk. That was my opinion and just summing up your s 😛 [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/opinions-thoughts-on-these-headers/44242.md?page=2)