# Orange County Choppers Foreclosure Over Major Debt **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [January 31, 2011, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714 "2011-01-31T13:48:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/1 "2011-01-31T13:48:51Z")
> As of late, Orange County Choppers has been involved in some major drama. OCC business was featured on the reality TV series called American Chopper, and although they didn’t make the prettiest bikes, it was a huge success. > Paul Sr. and Paul Jr. have been fighting over money, specifically Paul Jr’s stake in OCC. Now, OCC’s lenders are filing a foreclosure, that has nothing to do with the family tensions. The whole mess-up is connected to several unpaid mortgage payments , for $96,400 and $14,000. Choppers reportedly didn’t make the payments, not due to lack of money, but because they were protesting the terms of the loan. It looks like Choppers bought a showroom property some years ago (2007) – and are claiming that property is worth millions less then the time they purchased it, so they want their payments lowered. No official statements by either party have been made as of Tuesday morning. > [http://bikerscafeblog.com/2011/01/29/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/](http://bikerscafeblog.com/2011/01/29/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/) Guys still can’t get their act together. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/2 "2011-01-31T14:55:40Z")
I saw the preview for the next episode… it appears this issue is covered as well as Sr. suing Jr. hahah ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/3 "2011-01-31T15:12:18Z")
> [@OFFICIAL '07-'08 BUFFALO SABRES SEASON THREAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-07-08-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/36504/480): > > I saw the preview for the next episode… it appears this issue is covered as well as Sr. suing Jr. hahah Haven’t had cable in a while, so not up to date on them. However arguably this could be one of the most “real” reality shows, since they sincerely seem to not give a fuck about each other. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/4 "2011-01-31T15:33:27Z")
I haven’t watched it in awhile, I just remember that someone died while roofing Paul Jr.'s new shop for Jr. designs. Mikey works with him. Vinny and Cody started their own shop and Sr. still runs OCC. It’s more of a soap opera now than anything. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/5 "2011-01-31T15:34:47Z")
So Sr. is essentially alone? What is the show even based on now or do they follow Jr and Sr at the same time as a “build off” style? ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/6 "2011-01-31T15:37:10Z")
The last episode I watched was last year and they followed everyone separately. ---
**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/7 "2011-01-31T15:38:24Z")
I always liked the bubbly mikey fellow. ---
**Author:** ![GATVILLE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gatville/32/6362_2.png) [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/8 "2011-01-31T15:42:14Z")
> [@Buffalo Bills: Who gets the start against Washington?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-bills-who-gets-the-start-against-washington/39246/31): > > Haven’t had cable in a while, so not up to date on them. > > However arguably this could be one of the most “real” reality shows, since they sincerely seem to not give a fuck about each other. id have to say ax men is the most real reality show ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/9 "2011-01-31T15:50:36Z")
_![http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/5524727/YO-GATVILLE-IM-HAPPY-FOR-YOU-AND-IMMA-LET-YOU-FINISH-BUT-DEADLIEST-CATCH-IS-THE-BEST-REAL-REALITY-SH.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Kanye-West](http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/5524727/YO-GATVILLE-IM-HAPPY-FOR-YOU-AND-IMMA-LET-YOU-FINISH-BUT-DEADLIEST-CATCH-IS-THE-BEST-REAL-REALITY-SH.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Kanye-West)_ ---
**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/10 "2011-01-31T17:16:31Z")
FUCK DEADLIEST CATCH That was the “NEW HOT SHIT” program when I was in the hospital… FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU FISHING BOATS FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU RAGEQUIT ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/11 "2011-01-31T18:08:13Z")
The OCC show is a fucking joke and both Sr and Jr are tools IMO. The show is stupid and the sooner it’s off the better. Their business boomed off this show, not because they build a good bike, but because companies got free TV advertisement when they were on the show and were filing in to be chosen to do so. Off topic… Met them multiple times during the time we were traveling show-show with the bike and they were the only guys there(shop wise) at the shows that didn’t acknowledge us. Would walk by, glance over for half a second, and kept on walking. The few times Pete and I would try to make conversation with them they were far to busy with themselves to show interest. All awhile the other guys like Matt Hotch, Arlen and Cory Ness, the detroit brothers, Joe Martin, etc were stopping in and talking with us for hours on end…and they are FAR better at building beautiful bikes than those arrogant fucks with this show. I don’t give a crap one way or another, but they talk like their gods on that stupid show and they are nowhere near as good as the other big guys out there. Unfortunately their drama sold Discovery and 800 seasons later they’re still pulling in ratings with their rant/rave super scripted, overly self-narrated show. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/12 "2011-01-31T18:14:29Z")
> [@Buffalo Bills: Who gets the start against Washington?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-bills-who-gets-the-start-against-washington/39246/40): > > The OCC show is a fucking joke and both Sr and Jr are tools IMO. > > The show is stupid and the sooner it’s off the better. Their business boomed off this show, not because they build a good bike, but because companies got free TV advertisement when they were on the show and were filing in to be chosen to do so. > > Off topic… Met them multiple times during the time we were traveling show-show with the bike and they were the only guys there(shop wise) at the shows that didn’t acknowledge us. Would walk by, glance over for half a second, and kept on walking. The few times Pete and I would try to make conversation with them they were far to busy with themselves to show interest. All awhile the other guys like Matt Hotch, Arlen and Cory Ness, the detroit brothers, Joe Martin, etc were stopping in and talking with us for hours on end…and they are FAR better at building beautiful bikes than those arrogant fucks with this show. I don’t give a crap one way or another, but they talk like their gods on that stupid show and they are nowhere near as good as the other big guys out there. > > Unfortunately their drama sold Discovery and 800 seasons later they’re still pulling in ratings with their rant/rave super scripted, overly self-narrated show. sooooo true ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/13 "2011-01-31T18:16:21Z")
people still watch that show? ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/14 "2011-01-31T18:17:40Z")
in trailer parks prolly ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/15 "2011-01-31T18:43:12Z")
Watching it now. Not in a trailer park. I agree the bikes they build are garbage. No function at all in their design process. On Sr.'s side, Rick and Jason Poole are about the only two OGs from the original show. Miley and Jr. apparently don’t talk to Sr. Family drama. That’s the basic summary of every show. ---
**Author:** ![Kicklow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/59ef9b/32.png) [@Kicklow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kicklow)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/16 "2011-01-31T20:36:23Z")
i watch…no trailer here. ---
**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/17 "2011-01-31T22:28:19Z")
Company I used to work for was contracted to certify their new building under LEED energy efficiency standards. Got all their autographs on a poster type thing, I think we were done before all this nonsense happened though. lawl ---
**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/18 "2011-02-01T07:37:36Z")
About to watch Price is Right. Not in a trailer. I dislike to great extent Carrey as the host. ---
**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/19 "2011-02-01T07:44:10Z")
So in other words… they are pulling a Travis Kroch? A bank loans them money to purchase property valued at x amount of dollars. That money goes to whoever owned that property prior to the purchase. Since the property is now worth much less they are punishing the bank that loaned them money and want them to take the loss on it? Very classy. ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/orange-county-choppers-foreclosure-over-major-debt/256714/20 "2011-02-01T08:35:03Z")
> [@Buffalo Bills: Who gets the start against Washington?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-bills-who-gets-the-start-against-washington/39246/40): > > The OCC show is a fucking joke and both Sr and Jr are tools IMO. > > The show is stupid and the sooner it’s off the better. Their business boomed off this show, not because they build a good bike, but because companies got free TV advertisement when they were on the show and were filing in to be chosen to do so. > > Off topic… Met them multiple times during the time we were traveling show-show with the bike and they were the only guys there(shop wise) at the shows that didn’t acknowledge us. Would walk by, glance over for half a second, and kept on walking. The few times Pete and I would try to make conversation with them they were far to busy with themselves to show interest. All awhile the other guys like Matt Hotch, Arlen and Cory Ness, the detroit brothers, Joe Martin, etc were stopping in and talking with us for hours on end…and they are FAR better at building beautiful bikes than those arrogant fucks with this show. I don’t give a crap one way or another, but they talk like their gods on that stupid show and they are nowhere near as good as the other big guys out there. > > Unfortunately their drama sold Discovery and 800 seasons later they’re still pulling in ratings with their rant/rave super scripted, overly self-narrated show. THIS. is why only RUBS (rich urban bikers) buy their shit, and think they are awesome.