# Ordered a custom plate...

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [October 5, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105 "2015-10-05T15:54:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![goff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/goff/32/7494_2.png) [@goff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/goff)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/41 "2015-10-13T16:38:48Z")

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I’m actually looking at the American Racing headers and x-pipe. The shop that I talked to about rebuilding my heads suggested a BTR Stage 3 cam for what I’m trying to achieve.

I picked up a “Corvette Parking Only” sign for the garage while in Ellicottville this past weekend, LOL.

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/42 "2015-10-13T17:11:47Z")

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> [@XwalkerX](#):
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> have you looked into a cam setup? im wondering how much of a toll a more aggressive cam takes on a motor like this in terms of longevity.

None?

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 4:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/43 "2015-10-14T04:50:55Z")

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it doesn’t beat up the motor itself, it beats up valvetrain components. more aggressive cam lobes (opening fast and slamming shut) require stiffer valve springs that don’t have the service life of OEM parts. Broken valvesprings are nothing new when it comes to aggressive cams, but recently there have been some LS7 lifter failures that are probably a combination of the super stiff springs and lots of side load on the roller wheel.

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**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/44 "2015-10-14T06:33:55Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> You kept the plate frame? That’s the first step down the road to becoming “that corvette guy.”
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> Congrats though 🙂

> [@goff](#):
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> I picked up a “Corvette Parking Only” sign for the garage while in Ellicottville this past weekend, LOL.

Its happening!

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**Author:** ![goff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/goff/32/7494_2.png) [@goff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/goff)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/45 "2015-10-15T12:38:39Z")

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> [@Norb O](#):
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> it doesn’t beat up the motor itself, it beats up valvetrain components. more aggressive cam lobes (opening fast and slamming shut) require stiffer valve springs that don’t have the service life of OEM parts. Broken valvesprings are nothing new when it comes to aggressive cams, but recently there have been some LS7 lifter failures that are probably a combination of the super stiff springs and lots of side load on the roller wheel.

The shop I’m talking with recommended atleast upgraded valve springs, I will likely upgrade a few other things as well. After blowing up my Evo not long after I bought it I’m not taking any chances this time around. LS7 costs just a bit more than a 4G63…

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/46 "2015-10-15T12:42:27Z")

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Well you can’t put an aftermarket cam in and NOT upgrade the springs :lol:

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**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/47 "2015-10-15T14:19:38Z")

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i understand you have to upgrade the springs but im asking what is the average life expectancy for aftermarket valve springs with something like a katech torquer cam?

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**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/48 "2015-10-15T14:32:17Z")

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> [@XwalkerX](#):
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> i understand you have to upgrade the springs but im asking what is the average life expectancy for aftermarket valve springs with something like a katech torquer cam?

Bruh just sell the e30 and buy a z06 already, damnit. Then take me for romantic cruises in it. :kisses:

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**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/49 "2015-10-15T14:42:06Z")

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that’s the plan weenie

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/50 "2015-10-16T03:06:24Z")

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> [@XwalkerX](#):
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> i understand you have to upgrade the springs but im asking what is the average life expectancy for aftermarket valve springs with something like a katech torquer cam?

Most places would say check or just replace them at 20-30k its an easy job doesn’t take long.

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**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/51 "2015-10-16T04:05:17Z")

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@Norb_O you sure the valve springs have to be upgraded? \<3

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@goff, what “shop” are you talking to if you don’t mind me asking? New Era does wonders. :lol:

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/52 "2015-10-16T04:31:55Z")

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**Author:** ![goff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/goff/32/7494_2.png) [@goff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/goff)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/53 "2015-10-16T07:28:29Z")

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> [@GV1390](#):
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> @**[Norb O](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=3782)** you sure the valve springs have to be upgraded? \<3
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> @**[goff](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=1503)**, what “shop” are you talking to if you don’t mind me asking? New Era does wonders. :lol:

American Heritage Performance. All of the LS7 guys recommend them. I had planned on having New Era tune the car when Im done with it though…

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**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/54 "2015-10-16T07:44:53Z")

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so im sure you did all the research already but any reason you went with an 06 vs an 08?

a bunch of threads ive stumbled upon all hype the 08+ TR-6060 trans vs the T56 that came in the 06/07’s.  
is it typical forum bullshit opinions? seems like the t56 is a pretty stout setup

also at what point do you need to upgrade the clutch in these things? any plans for that?

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/55 "2015-10-16T07:55:14Z")

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TR6060 is a lot stronger

im running 700hp on a stock ls7 clutch if you’re not racing all the time it will hold up at his power level

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**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/56 "2015-10-16T08:10:28Z")

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I don’t think it’s justifiable to want the TR6060 when running stockish power (cam/bolt ons). if you plan to go apeshit with power adders one day i guess it’d make sense. I wonder what the shift quality/feel is like with the 6060 vs the older T56

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**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/57 "2015-10-16T08:40:55Z")

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just a cam/header setup can push like 550whp right? that would be plenty for me.

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**Author:** ![goff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/goff/32/7494_2.png) [@goff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/goff)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/58 "2015-10-16T09:27:16Z")

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I actually wanted 08+ but really couldn’t pass up the deal on this car. I only plan to do cam/heads/headers so I should be ok with the T56 and stock clutch. Anything more and I think I would be considering beefing up the trans and upgrading the clutch.

Should be 550whp-600whp depending cam and tuning/dyno. I think I will be plenty happy with that.

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**Author:** ![goff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/goff/32/7494_2.png) [@goff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/goff)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/59 "2015-11-06T14:01:06Z")

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Still driving this thing, but anxious to start the tear down. Slowly gathering parts, these just arrived today. Lucky for me, Towne aquired a GM dealer not too long ago so parts are very cheap for me

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**Author:** ![goff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/goff/32/7494_2.png) [@goff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/goff)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordered-a-custom-plate/273105/60 "2015-12-05T12:43:59Z")

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Took it off the road this week, just in time for nice weather… :tif:

Pulled the valve covers

[![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/94850F44-DAA1-406B-83D1-A48F495DDC96_zpsmevduzjk.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/94850F44-DAA1-406B-83D1-A48F495DDC96_zpsmevduzjk.jpg)](http://smg.photobucket.com/user/goffisgreat/media/2006%20Z06/94850F44-DAA1-406B-83D1-A48F495DDC96_zpsmevduzjk.jpg.html)  
[![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/F6D424CE-34C9-4739-8179-E3517417F8C7_zpsftqo73q0.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/F6D424CE-34C9-4739-8179-E3517417F8C7_zpsftqo73q0.jpg)](http://smg.photobucket.com/user/goffisgreat/media/2006%20Z06/F6D424CE-34C9-4739-8179-E3517417F8C7_zpsftqo73q0.jpg.html)

Pulled the rockers and pushrods

[![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/871B9E80-57AF-4F99-8065-9710940ECB29_zpswucvsw4f.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/871B9E80-57AF-4F99-8065-9710940ECB29_zpswucvsw4f.jpg)](http://smg.photobucket.com/user/goffisgreat/media/2006%20Z06/871B9E80-57AF-4F99-8065-9710940ECB29_zpswucvsw4f.jpg.html)

Cam showed up along with plenty of ARP lube for studs and bolts

[![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/7762A03C-EE32-4882-890F-E6B0E016B6A7_zpsyywpsuma.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/7762A03C-EE32-4882-890F-E6B0E016B6A7_zpsyywpsuma.jpg)](http://smg.photobucket.com/user/goffisgreat/media/2006%20Z06/7762A03C-EE32-4882-890F-E6B0E016B6A7_zpsyywpsuma.jpg.html)

pulled the heads

[![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/487E79CD-0423-4899-A4B8-919AE73CE369_zps9eudfcbi.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/487E79CD-0423-4899-A4B8-919AE73CE369_zps9eudfcbi.jpg)](http://smg.photobucket.com/user/goffisgreat/media/2006%20Z06/487E79CD-0423-4899-A4B8-919AE73CE369_zps9eudfcbi.jpg.html)  
[![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/BEF53632-E57F-4439-96FE-591EB237A560_zpsbvqhmgwm.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/BEF53632-E57F-4439-96FE-591EB237A560_zpsbvqhmgwm.jpg)](http://smg.photobucket.com/user/goffisgreat/media/2006%20Z06/BEF53632-E57F-4439-96FE-591EB237A560_zpsbvqhmgwm.jpg.html)  
[![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/9CC60117-4ECB-4EEC-B355-43B545DA65F9_zpsoczesesw.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/9CC60117-4ECB-4EEC-B355-43B545DA65F9_zpsoczesesw.jpg)](http://smg.photobucket.com/user/goffisgreat/media/2006%20Z06/9CC60117-4ECB-4EEC-B355-43B545DA65F9_zpsoczesesw.jpg.html)  
[![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/3B8C54E0-0330-4EFA-8FC1-79C0719BA374_zpssbz287nq.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/3B8C54E0-0330-4EFA-8FC1-79C0719BA374_zpssbz287nq.jpg)](http://smg.photobucket.com/user/goffisgreat/media/2006%20Z06/3B8C54E0-0330-4EFA-8FC1-79C0719BA374_zpssbz287nq.jpg.html)

water pump, manifolds, hosed down everything from all the coolant

[![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/CB0CC425-50A4-47D4-8E74-77E38C2973DD_zpsctn2vzxr.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/CB0CC425-50A4-47D4-8E74-77E38C2973DD_zpsctn2vzxr.jpg)](http://smg.photobucket.com/user/goffisgreat/media/2006%20Z06/CB0CC425-50A4-47D4-8E74-77E38C2973DD_zpsctn2vzxr.jpg.html)

need to move the rack to get the crank bolt and pulley off

[![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/7E8CC9AF-C3BC-4DAD-8AE8-1A40DB500B64_zpsfe4c97hx.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/goffisgreat/2006%20Z06/7E8CC9AF-C3BC-4DAD-8AE8-1A40DB500B64_zpsfe4c97hx.jpg)](http://smg.photobucket.com/user/goffisgreat/media/2006%20Z06/7E8CC9AF-C3BC-4DAD-8AE8-1A40DB500B64_zpsfe4c97hx.jpg.html)

Going to ship the heads out to American Heritage Performance in California. probably won’t get to the cam for a bit, and I still need to order headers and some more gaskets.

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