# Our tax dollars hard at work

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**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021 "2011-08-17T07:28:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/21 "2011-08-18T19:16:21Z")

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> [@craigslist lowballs](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/craigslist-lowballs/44736/6):
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> voting for somebody just because he’s from a certain party is retarded.

Yet it’s done every single election day…

Also note the popcorn smiley: it was me ring sarcastic to rial people up.

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/22 "2011-08-18T19:19:31Z")

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> [@craigslist lowballs](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/craigslist-lowballs/44736/6):
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> voting for somebody just because he’s from a certain party is retarded.

This may be the most reasonable thing you’ve ever said.

I wish there were more people to choose from during the election, I think we could use more competition than just two people. /PJB

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/23 "2011-08-18T19:21:17Z")

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well theres usually more than two candidates but does the Marijuana Reform Party candidate really have a shot at being president?

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**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/24 "2011-08-18T19:23:13Z")

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> [@The "Oil Prices" thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-oil-prices-thread/44739/8):
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> well theres usually more than two candidates but does the Marijuana Reform Party candidate really have a shot at being president?

Only if the entire electorate is stoned, usually it’s only California.

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/25 "2011-08-18T19:24:51Z")

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> [@The "Oil Prices" thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-oil-prices-thread/44739/8):
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> well theres usually more than two candidates but does the Marijuana Reform Party candidate really have a shot at being president?

And bam… you go right back to ridiculousness

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/26 "2011-08-18T19:24:59Z")

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Hence why the party system should be done away with.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/27 "2011-08-18T19:29:00Z")

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> [@The "Oil Prices" thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-oil-prices-thread/44739/9):
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> And bam… you go right back to ridiculousness

ever see how many way out in left field parties there are in a presidential election?

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/28 "2011-08-18T19:29:30Z")

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Ron Paul seems to be a candidate with different views but he’s largely ignored and laughed at.

Unfortunately the two party system will never be done away with and other parties have no chance the way it’s set up.

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/29 "2011-08-18T19:32:22Z")

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> [@Drug Testing an entire city at once...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drug-testing-an-entire-city-at-once/44727/20):
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> Hence why the party system should be done away with.

Completely agree.

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**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/30 "2011-08-18T19:44:05Z")

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I don’t vote, but I’m writing in PJB in 2012. Fuck it.

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**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/31 "2011-08-18T20:11:41Z")

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> [@Drug Testing an entire city at once...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/drug-testing-an-entire-city-at-once/44727/20):
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> Hence why the party system should be done away with.

The Electoral College?

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/32 "2011-08-18T20:15:38Z")

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> [@The "Oil Prices" thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-oil-prices-thread/44739/17):
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> The Electoral College?

Also not a fan of it.

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**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/33 "2011-08-18T20:32:24Z")

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Well what do you mean by get rid of the party system?

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/34 "2011-08-18T21:47:30Z")

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> [@The "Oil Prices" thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-oil-prices-thread/44739/23):
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> Well what do you mean by get rid of the party system?

Not the party system in general, but more of the two-party system. It’s almost a given that if you’re not a D or R, you will not be the president. Two many people believe they have to be a part of either side, and that if you are not a part of either, your voice has no chance of being heard.

It’s nothing that’ll happen overnight, but the more people realize they have other options that can do just as well if not better, the better off things will be.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/35 "2011-08-18T22:08:00Z")

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The two party system we have still allows other parties to be formed.

They however simply won’t get anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/36 "2011-08-18T23:20:26Z")

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> [@Nissan Guys: Avoid Z1 Motorsports](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nissan-guys-avoid-z1-motorsports/44681/10):
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> Let’s get cossey or Jammer to run for pres

Id make it simple… many would require sponsered bills of course…

No more money to countries that abuse us. Especially members of OPEC, who just keep fucking with us every time our economy seems to start to gain speed.

Tariff the shit outta China / Its ok, we can pay more for junk

Make small business the receivers of breaks when jobs are created, rather than rewarding those that choose not to work

Unions would not be untouchable, the way they often are… if I could wave a wand

Impose a limit of fed.state,county employees to 30% of eligiable employable people (voters)

Incentives should be the motivator… the best should be rewarded.

Term limits in congress would be nice, IF the Prez could just say it, and make it so … )

Promote smart profiling and fight immigration as the law reads

Not touch subject of abortion

I would get rid of the SS / Medicare tax cap… tax all the way up. Yeah, I said that.

Id then do commercials for eXtenZe.

This is what I would do in the first hour.

Then Id nap… cause Day 2, I’d start really promoting my adgenda.

—edit… probably shoulda put thought into this…but go ahead libs and commies…fire back

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/37 "2011-08-19T04:37:07Z")

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see , ya have my vote

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**Author:** ![car\_ramrod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/car_ramrod/32/6441_2.png) [@car\_ramrod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/car_ramrod)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/38 "2011-08-19T05:08:26Z")

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> [@PDF Help......](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pdf-help/44735/8):
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> like the other asshole wouldve been any better, especially with that deranged cunt as a vice president, the same twat that popped out a tard and then quit being governor because she was bored.

I seriously hope you are sterile for the sake of this country’s future

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**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/39 "2011-08-19T07:39:52Z")

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![http://i.imgur.com/J4BRB.png](http://i.imgur.com/J4BRB.png)

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**Author:** ![Phate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Phate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Phate)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/our-tax-dollars-hard-at-work/260021/40 "2011-08-19T08:20:50Z")

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Ron Paul was promising for a while, but he’s not really a libertarian, and he seems to share the idea with a lot of republicans that “the united states is a christian nation”. I love his views on foreign policy, getting rid of the patriot act, and the legalization/taxation of marijuana, but some of his other ideas scare me a bit.

Basically where it all starts to go wrong is his religious crazy aspect. He seems to want a theocracy, just like the other GOP candidates.

[http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.html?reposttherepost](http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.html?reposttherepost)

> Through perverse court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, **the elitist, secular Left** has managed to convince many in our nation that religion must be driven from public view. _The justification is always that someone, somewhere, might possibly be offended or feel uncomfortable living in the midst of a largely Christian society, so all must yield to the fragile sensibilities of the few_. The ultimate goal of the anti-religious elites is to transform America into a completely secular nation, a nation that is legally and culturally biased against Christianity.

Its a little odd to be called “elitest” and “overeducated” by a doctor. And its nice how in the sentence I italicized, he basically says “most of the country is christian, and fuck you if you aren’t”.

> **The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers**. On the contrary, our Founders’ political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of **the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion**. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life.

At this point, he is either completely clueless about the founding fathers as well as the documents in question, or so full of shit his eyes are brown.

Why do I give so much of a shit about a president’s religious views? I don’t until they look like they are going to start effecting me. Not believing in the separation of church and state is a major deal breaker. “But what about all the people in this country that are christian?” And what about all of those who are not? The only good thing religion can do for government is getting out of it.

The candidate I wanted was Gary Johnson, but he got kind of fucked over because he was too sane to be interesting for the media to give him any coverage. Sorry about the rant, I’m just kinda pissed off that I now don’t have any candidates that I like at all.

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