# Overboring
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [June 15, 2006, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377 "2006-06-15T19:11:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/1 "2006-06-15T19:11:59Z")
Ive abandoned my possible bmw project to look out new things, again.
How much would it cost, how long would my car be out of my hands for my Buick lesabre 3.8 to be bored over to 4.1.
I look at this as a what seems to be a good way to make nice reliable power without all those issues that come with Forced Induction systems.
Are there local shops or people who can do this on these boards?
Id love to support a local shop than go somewhere else. I also trust people on here than the average shop.
Thanks in advance, and i do expect some redicule for this possible decision.
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/2 "2006-06-15T19:15:41Z")
Is there a reason for the 4.1 number? I’d trust a well designed FI kit (supercharging in particular) with moderate gains over a custom big bore project.
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### Author:  [@FASTMOFO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FASTMOFO)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/3 "2006-06-15T19:15:47Z")
waste of money
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### Author:  [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/4 "2006-06-15T19:17:04Z")
That number was given to me by my mechanic who did it to a 89 century.
The thing is with the cost of the good SC kits…there damn pricey.
Im looking for that Cheap power thing…
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### Author:  [@ImportMuscle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ImportMuscle)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/5 "2006-06-15T19:20:01Z")
you gotta pay to play
save up, do forced induction. Overboring could run into worse problems than forced induction
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/6 "2006-06-15T19:20:25Z")
> [@The\_Russian](#):
>
> Im looking for that Cheap power thing…
A bit of wisdom: Cheap power breaks.
Good
Fast
Cheap
Pick two.
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### Author:  [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/7 "2006-06-15T19:20:43Z")
haha, im trying to cheat, im on a low income…hahaha
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/8 "2006-06-15T19:23:28Z")
you arent going to gain anything worthwhile by spending a G on boring a 3.8 out to 4.1.
for another G You can probably swap in aboosted 3.8.
But, then, why would You? It’s a 94 lesabre.
Spend Your time and money to make it weigh less. Thats about the only Mod that I can endorse for that car.
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### Author:  [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/9 "2006-06-15T19:23:31Z")
another reason behind this move was it has 127k, i can get it all re honed and perfect compression etc…
The jist im getting is save up for something like a stage 2 SC or Turblo kit made for this car.
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### Author:  [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/10 "2006-06-15T19:26:03Z")
Unless there is a ridiculous amount of material on that 3.8 block, you will have to do more than boring it out. I would think that would require some stroking as well.
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### Author:  [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/11 "2006-06-15T19:28:43Z")
yea cheap and fast don’t really go together lol i’d say save your money towards somthing else for when this car dies
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### Author:  [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/12 "2006-06-15T19:36:43Z")
Well that was a quick decision, thanks guys.
Savearoo time
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### Author:  [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/13 "2006-06-15T20:06:06Z")
man i’m glad you just posted what you did at the end :tup:
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### Author:  [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/14 "2006-06-15T20:27:03Z")
**smacks forehead** just save up and buy a GTP or something
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### Author:  [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/15 "2006-06-15T21:07:09Z")
> [@BikerFry](#):
>
> A bit of wisdom: Cheap power breaks.
>
> Good
> Fast
> Cheap
>
> Pick two.
or buy a honda.
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### Author:  [@Shrives](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shrives)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/16 "2006-06-15T22:25:52Z")
listen to minglor
a 94 lesabre was my first car actually, and being the ricer i was at the time, i knew well enough to save for a different car to try and make fast. I hope you see the light and so the same. just dont choose vw’s
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### Author:  [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/17 "2006-06-15T22:31:13Z")
The light is seen, im just a poor fuck
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### Author:  [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2006, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/18 "2006-06-15T23:44:29Z")
> [@Shrives](#):
>
> listen to minglor
>
> a 94 lesabre was my first car actually, and being the ricer i was at the time, i knew well enough to save for a different car to try and make fast. I hope you see the light and so the same. just dont choose vw’s
swerd.
fin.
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2006, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/19 "2006-06-16T05:07:18Z")
> [@Minglor](#):
>
> or buy a honda.
Even with a Honduh you can only have Good & Cheap or Good & Fast.
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### Author:  [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2006, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/overboring/13377/20 "2006-06-16T06:46:12Z")
I’m assuming the booick is paid for? and it runs? fuck man, just drive it.
buy a fox body stang / civic hatch / etc. as a project car.
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