# PA- Anti-Modified Exhaust Bill **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 3, 2009, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680 "2009-05-03T05:27:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![matt94z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matt94z/32/6040_2.png) [@matt94z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matt94z)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/21 "2009-05-06T06:53:19Z")
> [@brakeline help](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/brakeline-help/40168/28): > > Jesus H. Christ. When is this shit going to stop? Hmmm… what does the “H.” stand for? Im not a religious person, so just wondering. And fuck man, who cares about this gay shit… The truth is if exhaust is loud enough to get yanked for, then its just too fuckin loud. Why would you want to draw that kind of attention to yourself anyways? ---
**Author:** ![pancho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eada6e/32.png) [@pancho](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pancho)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/22 "2009-05-06T09:35:49Z")
> [@Gmail + chat + AIM = crazy delicious](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gmail-chat-aim-crazy-delicious/39766/15): > > Hmmm… what does the “H.” stand for? Im not a religious person, so just wondering. > > And fuck man, who cares about this gay shit… The truth is if exhaust is loud enough to get yanked for, then its just too fuckin loud. > > Why would you want to draw that kind of attention to yourself anyways? The H is for Hesus for an alternate name ---
**Author:** ![matt94z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matt94z/32/6040_2.png) [@matt94z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matt94z)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/23 "2009-05-06T09:45:23Z")
Oh right… I was thinking Herbert or something, but that just doesnt fit the time. ---
**Author:** ![Sinner6.0L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sinner6.0l/32/6016_2.png) [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/24 "2009-05-06T14:27:03Z")
> [@How the Big Boys Roll...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-the-big-boys-roll/40231/73): > > cop car exhausts are no different than any other crown vic/grand marquis with a dual exhaust. truth ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/25 "2009-05-06T14:37:53Z")
> [@The Official Banish MikeRi24 Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-banish-mikeri24-thread/40214/98): > > dont cop cars have an aftermarket style exhaust put on by the place that paints them and makes them all cop car like!?!?!? > > correct me if im wrong but i think thats what they do!?!?! again…why do people always gotta bring up “well cops have tint and cops have this and that” it doesnt matter what they do when they pull you over. what is illegal or not on their car doesnt pertain to the reason they pulled you over. if you are driving 80 with the flow of traffic but the speed limit is 70 and they pick you to pull over…again it doesnt matter what everyone else was doing…its only matters that you were pulled over and you broke a traffic law. ---
**Author:** ![thejeans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@thejeans](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thejeans)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/26 "2009-05-07T14:39:07Z")
> [@Anyone else running an 8800 series card? Temp issues?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-else-running-an-8800-series-card-temp-issues/40264/9): > > What about in my case? I have a N/A Mazda3 and I took the stock exhaust off of a turbo Mazdaspeed3. The exhaust is still stock, just not for my car. I kept my catalytic converters (yes, mazda3’s have two of them for some reason), so I should be legal, right? youd be fine… look at your muffler, it has a big mazda logo stamped on it with the part number and a few other things… they might try to give you shit about the sound, but as far as they know it would be a “stock” exhaust ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/27 "2009-05-07T18:32:32Z")
it wont pass anyway. so dont worry about it. ---
**Author:** ![dyingwish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dyingwish/32/6041_2.png) [@dyingwish](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dyingwish)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/28 "2009-05-08T04:27:15Z")
> [@NVM](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nvm/40290/4): > > it wont pass anyway. so dont worry about it. Truth. Every damn time this piece of legislation pops up, there is a mass panty-bunching event…but it never goes through. ---
**Author:** ![flyinglow57](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/flyinglow57/32/5978_2.png) [@flyinglow57](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/flyinglow57)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/29 "2009-05-08T05:18:54Z")
there already is illegal modification to noise supression (spl??) i got it in my camaro. i had my ls1 with a t-rex headers, no cats, open borla (aka no muffla) and i got pulled over when i was at idle… i pulled out of my driveway (cop car driving down the road toward my house about 5 houses up) drifted to the stop sign one house down and got pulled over at idle. ahhh i was so happy when he told the back up cop “listen to this when he starts it up… it sounds like a NASCAR” found the ticket… ![http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/000_0400.jpg](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/000_0400.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![jph102900](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jph102900/32/6049_2.png) [@jph102900](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jph102900)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/30 "2009-05-08T05:33:21Z")
^^ How much was the ticket? ---
**Author:** ![flyinglow57](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/flyinglow57/32/5978_2.png) [@flyinglow57](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/flyinglow57)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/31 "2009-05-08T05:47:29Z")
$106.50 i fought it and told them i fixed it… they made me go get the car and bring it down and the officer came outside to check it. he signed off on it and it was dropped. all i did was put the cap back on the exhaust. he said it was still loud but it was alot better. and if anyone questions me at idle… look at the location on the ticket and look where i live. ![http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/location.JPG](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/location.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![WildcatZ\_28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@WildcatZ\_28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/WildcatZ_28)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/32 "2009-05-08T05:59:20Z")
The whole point of this bill is a bag of S%#_. The jackasses sponsoring this bill are clueless as far as the hobby is concerned. I’d like to see these clowns enact legislation to prevent new laws and government official pay raises. Or better yet. Let’s pass a bill to keep dumbf_&%s from procreating. ---
**Author:** ![matt94z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matt94z/32/6040_2.png) [@matt94z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matt94z)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/33 "2009-05-08T07:06:59Z")
> [@Winter Storm Warning starting Saturday night (12/15)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-storm-warning-starting-saturday-night-12-15/40289/27): > > $106.50 i fought it and told them i fixed it… they made me go get the car and bring it down and the officer came outside to check it. he signed off on it and it was dropped. all i did was put the cap back on the exhaust. he said it was still loud but it was alot better. > > and if anyone questions me at idle… look at the location on the ticket and look where i live. Well you live in a nice area, what do you expect? Im sure all the rich old retired people dont want to hear some kids loud ass exhaust rumblin their windows and shit. And trust me that cop makes $80k+ a year, hes gona do all he can to make the majority of the tax payers happy. ---
**Author:** ![flyinglow57](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/flyinglow57/32/5978_2.png) [@flyinglow57](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/flyinglow57)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/34 "2009-05-08T07:17:52Z")
> [@Winter Storm Warning starting Saturday night (12/15)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/winter-storm-warning-starting-saturday-night-12-15/40289/29): > > Well you live in a nice area, what do you expect? Im sure all the rich old retired people dont want to hear some kids loud ass exhaust rumblin their windows and shit. > > And trust me that cop makes $80k+ a year, hes gona do all he can to make the majority of the tax payers happy. im not saying i was pissed… i totally understand the car was retarded loud. i live on a major bus way they do just as much noise though. i just didnt want to pay and i got out of it. i was more proud of getting pulled over at idle. :burnout: ---
**Author:** ![matt94z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matt94z/32/6040_2.png) [@matt94z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matt94z)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/35 "2009-05-08T07:31:21Z")
Well yea, thats cool if you like that kind of attention. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/36 "2009-05-08T13:15:19Z")
you think a cop makes 80k a year? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/37 "2009-05-08T13:22:49Z")
> [@Framing a picture....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/framing-a-picture/40279/8): > > you think a cop makes 80k a year? 🤣 in Whitehall, none the less. I could see a city cop but not a very small borough cop. ---
**Author:** ![matt94z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matt94z/32/6040_2.png) [@matt94z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matt94z)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/38 "2009-05-08T15:47:47Z")
hahahha you guys should do some research. Whitehall starts at $77k I believe. They were just recently hiring. As for the City, they make $39k but I believe that might be going up to $40k this year. Murrysville, Monroeville, and Whitehall are the 3 highest starting salaries in this part of the country. ---
**Author:** ![Russell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/50afbb/32.png) [@Russell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Russell)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/39 "2009-05-08T16:09:41Z")
i had a jeannette cop try to give me that ticket… what he wrote on the ticket is only part of the law. In order for a ticket like that to stick it must adhere to the PA vehicle code for testing…see this link [http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/067/chapter157/chap157toc.html](http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/067/chapter157/chap157toc.html) That is the current law for exhaust noise/modification. Under the new bill, the same ticket could be issued by the officer simply making a subjective decision that the exhaust was “too loud” or “inappropriately modified” edit: this link leads to the EXACT phrase that cop was trying to nail you with, what he left out was the fact that he actually has to have a measurement… [http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/067/chapter175/s175.75.html](http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/067/chapter175/s175.75.html) ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680/40 "2009-05-08T17:07:54Z")
> [@Knight Rider Mustang](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/knight-rider-mustang/40278/37): > > hahahha you guys should do some research. Whitehall starts at $77k I believe. They were just recently hiring. > > As for the City, they make $39k but I believe that might be going up to $40k this year. > > Murrysville, Monroeville, and Whitehall are the 3 highest starting salaries in this part of the country. humm… i’ll admit it’s more than i thought… but a stretch from 77… given it’s old data: The Township provides an excellent benefit package. As of 2007, salary for entry level police is $43,451.20/year. [http://www.whitehallpd.com/docs/Recruiting\_Police\_Brochure.pdf](http://www.whitehallpd.com/docs/Recruiting_Police_Brochure.pdf) [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pa-anti-modified-exhaust-bill/202680.md?page=3)