# Painless Harnesses **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 27, 2015, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/painless-harnesses/273318 "2015-11-27T12:37:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/painless-harnesses/273318/1 "2015-11-27T12:37:11Z")
Anyone familiar with painless harnesses? Looking at this one “Painless 10101 12 Circuit Universal Streetrod Harness with GM Keyed Column” > **[Amazon.com: Painless 10101 12 Circuit Universal Streetrod Harness with GM Keyed Column: Automotive](https://www.amazon.com/Painless-10101-Circuit-Universal-Streetrod/dp/B0006B3UFK/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1448656550&sr=1-1&keywords=painless+10101)** > > Painless 12 Circuit Universal Streetrod Harness with GM Keyed Column features modern blade-type fuses with clearly labeled circuits, corrosion resistant construction and a compact design. This wiring ... Just seeing if there are any other brands out there I should be looking at ---
**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/painless-harnesses/273318/2 "2015-12-14T11:12:59Z")
Check out Ron Francis: [https://www.ronfrancis.com/](https://www.ronfrancis.com/) And this is a great source as well: [http://www.wiringproducts.com/](http://www.wiringproducts.com/) I’ve used Painless before. Is it worth the money…? Well, it’s worth not having headaches. The more educated you are on your particular system the better. BUT, I suggest getting a larger count circuit than what you think you need as a minimum. Feel free to shoot me any questions. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/painless-harnesses/273318/3 "2015-12-14T19:02:03Z")
Used one on my E30. In hindsight I could have just done it from scratch for a little bit more but exactly how I wanted it. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/painless-harnesses/273318/4 "2015-12-14T19:23:51Z")
I have no issues soon it my self just trying to find a clean way to mount relays and make a junction for everything. I would probably make something like this guy sells [http://www.racewiresolutions.com](http://www.racewiresolutions.com) he wants 1500-1800 a panel for what I would need ---
**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/painless-harnesses/273318/5 "2015-12-15T06:56:56Z")
I would DIY the harness as well, but thats no surprise. Here is what I did for the cavalier if you want to take a look. I used the Bussman fuse panels, and just generic relay sockets hooked together, and mounted to a panel. What I like about the bussman panel is when you add a circuit the terminal you crimp to the wire is the socket for the fuse. So its one less connection vs some other panels. [http://www.clubhousecustoms.com/gallery2/v/JUICEDZ4/album32/?g2\_page=1](http://www.clubhousecustoms.com/gallery2/v/JUICEDZ4/album32/?g2_page=1) And what I have started for the cabriolet, which will likely be getting redone now that Ive decided not to use any of the factory wiring. [http://www.clubhousecustoms.com/gallery2/v/album30/album52/wiring/](http://www.clubhousecustoms.com/gallery2/v/album30/album52/wiring/) EDIT: If you want to make a switch panel or any other panel check these guys out. [http://www.frontpanelexpress.com/](http://www.frontpanelexpress.com/) Ive used them many times to make switch panels and even the background for my gauge cluster. ![http://www.clubhousecustoms.com/gallery2/d/12722-5/IMG_4987.JPG](http://www.clubhousecustoms.com/gallery2/d/12722-5/IMG_4987.JPG) Dan ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/painless-harnesses/273318/6 "2015-12-19T08:10:48Z")
Painless wiring harnesses are painful. Some things they do don’t make sense. You are better off modifying a stock harness.