# Pants Party is not used to low end torque... **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [July 21, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924 "2008-07-21T22:46:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/21 "2008-07-22T19:31:29Z")
is that a DSM :banana ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/22 "2008-07-22T19:32:22Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > the M6 C5’s are capable of 12’s all day with a capable driver of 108-110 traps bone stock…dont believe me, look it up…also, this is for pants party… Sure capable but they typically do not with the average driver. Does it make you feel any better to always look at the extremel left of the spectrum? Stock 3/S is capable of LOW 13s/HIGH 12s but it is NOT a LOW 13 second car. History has proven that. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/23 "2008-07-22T19:33:19Z")
pages and pages of 12 second C5’s stock and nearly stock (with better tires or catback) [http://dragtimes.com/Chevrolet--Corvette-Drag-Racing.html?resultpage=10](http://dragtimes.com/Chevrolet--Corvette-Drag-Racing.html?resultpage=10) [http://dragtimes.com/Chevrolet--Corvette-Drag-Racing.html?resultpage=11](http://dragtimes.com/Chevrolet--Corvette-Drag-Racing.html?resultpage=11) ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/24 "2008-07-22T19:34:03Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Sure capable but they typically do not with the average driver. Does it make you feel any better to always look at the extremel left of the spectrum? Stock 3/S is capable of LOW 13s/HIGH 12s but it is NOT a LOW 13 second car. History has proven that. right…and he said straight up his 3000gt cant compete with his C5…end of story? ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/25 "2008-07-22T19:35:27Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > pages and pages of 12 second C5’s stock and nearly stock (with better tires or catback) > > [Fast Chevrolet Corvettes 1/4 Mile 0-60 Drag Racing - DragTimes.com](http://dragtimes.com/Chevrolet--Corvette-Drag-Racing.html?resultpage=10) > > [Fast Chevrolet Corvettes 1/4 Mile 0-60 Drag Racing - DragTimes.com](http://dragtimes.com/Chevrolet--Corvette-Drag-Racing.html?resultpage=11) DragTimes? :lol Like I said, it’s definately possible but it’s not the average. Re-read that statement again to try and understand. Also, there’s a few near stock MID 12 second 3/S. I also went 12.8s with $50 in mods. Stock? No. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/26 "2008-07-22T19:36:27Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > DragTimes? :lol > > Like I said, it’s definately possible but it’s not the average. Re-read that statement again to try and understand. > > Also, there’s a few near stock MID 12 second 3/S. I also went 12.8s with $50 in mods. Stock? No. and you also went 12’s with 3k+ in mods? ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/27 "2008-07-22T19:36:45Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > right…and he said straight up his 3000gt cant compete with his C5…end of story? Do you have a GED or something? Let’s try this again. On average, they have VERY similiar ETS. I’ll completely admit that the C5 has the nod but the “smoke” reference is not really fair. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/28 "2008-07-22T19:37:28Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > and you also went 12’s with 3k+ in mods? I went 13.4 @ 127MPH too. I fail to see the point? I’ll give you cliff notes on my posts because you can’t connect the dots: Stock != intake/drag radials so why even mention it? ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/29 "2008-07-22T19:39:30Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > ![http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj136/sxryder46/IMG_1052.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/3/0/302e8765ab672b9ea8bd9360490037cb99b6dbbf.jpeg) yup it was a DSM :ohnoes ---
**Author:** ![silverandslow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@silverandslow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/30 "2008-07-22T19:41:52Z")
Find a stock vr4 and race the vette from a roll and end this bickering. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/31 "2008-07-22T19:43:07Z")
or just end it without a race. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/32 "2008-07-22T19:43:23Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > and you also went 12’s with 3k+ in mods? but trapped 120+… 120mph+ trap is good for ATLEAST low 11’s ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/33 "2008-07-22T19:50:24Z")
trap shows cars power… ET shows drivers skill… this is why shawn cant run 10’s with a ~130mph trap. :haha ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/34 "2008-07-22T19:57:19Z")
Why is everything with a black roofline automatically a dsm?? Soo retarded lol ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/35 "2008-07-22T19:57:22Z")
No need to race the stock VR4 and the C5. They are both very nice cars. However the C5 is faster and noticeably so. Shawn: A 12 second stock VR4 is VERY rare. A 12 second stock C5 is not rare. My friend who ran it has video proof. Hitting even 12.9 would be a .7 difference in the 1/4 for me. ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/36 "2008-07-22T19:58:27Z")
And those rims ^ are pure sex. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/37 "2008-07-22T19:59:31Z")
> [@K20powerz](#): > > but trapped 120+… 120mph+ trap is good for ATLEAST low 11’s Correct but that wasn’t my point. I just mentioned that a few mods can make a big different from stock power (even if it’s tires or free mod tricks like Supra’s removing headlight). Regardless, still not stock but some how some don’t grasp that? > [@EJ257FTW](#): > > trap shows cars power… ET shows drivers skill… this is why shawn cant run 10’s with a ~130mph trap. :haha I didn’t go to the track to run 10s. I knew the surface and me not wanting to break shit wouldn’t allow it. What justification do you have for your $50K STI running stock STI times? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/38 "2008-07-22T20:00:25Z")
Those wheels do look great on that car :nod Wish i still had the Mach to run some of you guys :sad ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/39 "2008-07-22T20:00:47Z")
> [@Pants Party](#): > > No need to race the stock VR4 and the C5. They are both very nice cars. However the C5 is faster and noticeably so. > > Shawn: A 12 second stock VR4 is VERY rare. A 12 second stock C5 is not rare. My friend who ran it has video proof. Hitting even 12.9 would be a .7 difference in the 1/4 for me. You keep missing the point. I’ll make it simple: Stop using extremes and use the average which is very similiar to one another. I’ll make it simple: Stop using extremes and use the average which is very similiar to one another. I’ll make it simple: Stop using extremes and use the average which is very similiar to one another. I’ll make it simple: Stop using extremes and use the average which is very similiar to one another. I’ll make it simple: Stop using extremes and use the average which is very similiar to one another. I’ll make it simple: Stop using extremes and use the average which is very similiar to one another. 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**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924/40 "2008-07-22T20:01:50Z")
Removing a headlight i would consider still stock, if my taillight got busted does that mean my car is modded?? :lol :tong [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pants-party-is-not-used-to-low-end-torque/237924.md?page=3)