# Paris Shooting

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [January 7, 2015, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418 "2015-01-07T08:15:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/41 "2015-01-07T15:09:23Z")

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But…  
but what about all the other religions that did bad things hundreds and thousands of years ago?!

/sarcasm

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**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/42 "2015-01-07T15:22:50Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Municipal police don’t have guns National police do have guns.
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> This is why the police on bikes fled the scene

What’s bad for the goose is bad for the gander, make everyone (including cops) feel defenseless. Paranoia over firearms should not make citizens the only sitting ducks.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/43 "2015-01-07T15:24:04Z")

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> [@rugsr](#):
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> But…  
> but what about all the other religions that did bad things hundreds and thousands of years ago?!
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> /sarcasm

exactly… This is the 21st century that shit is irrelevant. You don’t see Jews attacking Germans, or Indians going venturing out of their reservations blowing shit up shooting up Americans.

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**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/44 "2015-01-07T15:26:04Z")

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Oh man, you sound like me^ you must be a racist! :eyeroll:

per geehee and the new America

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**Author:** ![bpipe95](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bpipe95/32/7294_2.png) [@bpipe95](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bpipe95)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/45 "2015-01-07T15:31:08Z")

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> [@Mr. T](#):
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> exactly… This is the 21st century that shit is irrelevant. You don’t see Jews attacking Germans, or Indians going venturing out of their reservations blowing shit up shooting up Americans.

Are we forgetting about Chicago and blacks?

more deaths there than in our “war” in the Middle East.

It’s not just Muslims, it’s just that it’s ok to point fingers at them.

People tend to forget just how thin the line of being civilized is. these problems arise when the people no longer have the means to protect themselves from the predators.

And just because it was mentioned above, a militarized police is NOT the answer.

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**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/46 "2015-01-07T15:42:09Z")

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1 of 3 terrorists killed

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**Author:** ![Gus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gus/32/5112_2.png) [@Gus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gus)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/47 "2015-01-08T07:12:57Z")

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[http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/isis-beheaded-a-street-magician/ar-AA7SmeX](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/isis-beheaded-a-street-magician/ar-AA7SmeX)

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/48 "2015-01-08T07:18:32Z")

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> [@bpipe95](#):
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> Are we forgetting about Chicago and blacks?
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> more deaths there than in our “war” in the Middle East.
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> It’s not just Muslims, it’s just that it’s ok to point fingers at them.
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> People tend to forget just how thin the line of being civilized is. these problems arise when the people no longer have the means to protect themselves from the predators.
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> And just because it was mentioned above, a militarized police is NOT the answer.

Gang members killing each other over drugs isn’t people killing innocent people over religious beliefs.

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**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/49 "2015-01-08T07:30:59Z")

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> [@Gus](#):
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> [MSN](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/isis-beheaded-a-street-magician/ar-AA7SmeX)

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Gang members killing each other over drugs isn’t people killing innocent people over religious beliefs.

True. I mean gang memebers have killed innocent people for initiation reasons but I would think its more gang on gang. But no one would know that since the only stuff we see is white on black crime

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**Author:** ![bpipe95](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bpipe95/32/7294_2.png) [@bpipe95](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bpipe95)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/50 "2015-01-08T07:54:36Z")

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> [@rugsr](#):
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> :fail:
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> True. I mean gang memebers have killed innocent people for initiation reasons but I would think its more gang on gang. But no one would know that since the only stuff we see is white on black crime

Exactly, the stuff that has happened to innocents within chicago and other areas over the past few years has been getting carefully buried by the media. The flash mobs were/are targeted on white areas, burning people alive and other sick shit goes unnoticed because it’s not “Muslim” and easy to point at and report negatively.

Animals are animals and wherever/whenever they are not allowed to protect THEMSELVES, predators gain a foothold no matter what religious affiliation.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/51 "2015-01-08T07:58:45Z")

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> [@bpipe95](#):
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> The flash mobs were/are targeted on white areas, **burning people alive and other sick shit** goes unnoticed because it’s not “Muslim” and easy to point at and report negatively.

Link?

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**Author:** ![bpipe95](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bpipe95/32/7294_2.png) [@bpipe95](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bpipe95)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/52 "2015-01-08T08:07:20Z")

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The latest one was around the time of the ferguson riots, not related though. I think her name was Jessica

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/53 "2015-01-08T08:15:22Z")

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He is referring to this

> **[Police admit they have NO idea who burned Mississippi teen Jessica Chambers...](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2872615/Police-admit-NO-idea-burned-Mississippi-teen-Jessica-Chambers-alive-tearful-friends-gather-remember-funeral.html)**
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> The devastating news comes as Chambers' family and friends gather for her funeral. Chambers was inexplicably doused with gasoline and set on fire last Saturday night.

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**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/54 "2015-01-08T08:59:14Z")

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sick^

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/55 "2015-01-08T08:59:57Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> He is referring to this
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> [Mississippi police have NO idea who burned Jessica Chambers alive | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2872615/Police-admit-NO-idea-burned-Mississippi-teen-Jessica-Chambers-alive-tearful-friends-gather-remember-funeral.html)

That sounds a lot more like it was someone she knew than random violence.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/56 "2015-01-08T09:30:27Z")

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> **[People know the consequences: Opposing view](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/01/07/islam-allah-muslims-shariah-anjem-choudary-editorials-debates/21417461/)**
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> Why did France allow the tabloid to provoke Muslims?

[Anjem Choudary](http://www.anjemchoudary.co.uk/about.html) is a radical Muslim cleric in London and a lecturer in sharia.

> Contrary to popular misconception, Islam does not mean peace but rather means submission to the commands of Allah alone. Therefore,Muslims do not believe in the concept of freedom of expression, as their speech and actions are determined by divine revelation and not based on people’s desires.

> Although Muslims may not agree about the idea of freedom of expression, even non-Muslims who espouse it say it comes with responsibilities. In an increasingly unstable and insecure world, the potential consequences of insulting the Messenger Muhammad are known to Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

> Muslims consider the honor of the Prophet Muhammad to be dearer to them than that of their parents or even themselves. To defend it is considered to be an obligation upon them. The strict punishment if found guilty of this crime under sharia (Islamic law) is capital punishment implementable by an Islamic State. This is because the Messenger Muhammad said, “Whoever insults a Prophet kill him.”

> However, because the honor of the Prophet is something which all Muslims want to defend, many will take the law into their own hands, as we often see.

> Within liberal democracies, freedom of expression has curtailments, such as laws against incitement and hatred.

> The truth is that Western governments are content to sacrifice liberties and freedoms when being complicit to torture and rendition — or when restricting the freedom of movement of Muslims, under the guise of protecting national security.

> So why in this case did the French government allow the magazine Charlie Hebdo to continue to provoke Muslims, thereby placing the sanctity of its citizens at risk?

> It is time that the sanctity of a Prophet revered by up to one-quarter of the world’s population was protected.

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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/57 "2015-01-08T09:49:20Z")

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^^ Fuck that guy.

It may be time for another “National Draw Muhammad day.”

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**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/58 "2015-01-08T10:47:04Z")

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“It is time that the sanctity of a Prophet revered by up to one-quarter of the world’s population was protected”

HA. If thats the case then whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Dont bash other religions. Oh wait…silly me…you dont care

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> [@tpgsr](#):
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> ^^ Fuck that guy.
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> It may be time for another “National Draw Muhammad day.”

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhn8VeavTAs)

4:40 says we dont have the right to speak

6:10 Listen closely “embrace Islam or live according to the Law, which is Islam”

LISTEN to 9:30…tell me that doesnt piss you off…  
So he can joke about 9/11 but others cant joke about his “stuff” WOW

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**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/59 "2015-01-08T11:38:02Z")

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After reading this thread…

![http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/491200/resized_winter-is-coming-meme-generator-winter-is-coming-correction-winter-is-here-7df862.jpg](http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/491200/resized_winter-is-coming-meme-generator-winter-is-coming-correction-winter-is-here-7df862.jpg)

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**Author:** ![mechanicalmadness](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mechanicalmadness/32/5022_2.png) [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paris-shooting/271418/60 "2015-01-08T18:35:29Z")

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Is it bad that I could have dismantled the clerics whole argument in 3 minutes? Wouldn’t have been as dramatic… But meh.

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