# parts.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Classifieds\ **Created:** [August 13, 2004, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/parts/137804 "2004-08-13T12:40:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![strider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@strider](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/strider)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/parts/137804/1 "2004-08-13T12:40:13Z")
hi i m new i am wondering how much would it be for a sr20det engine s13. do i have to buy a tranny for it too? or can i use the one out of the 240 fastback its a 1989 model. i would like to know the difference between a black and red clip and anyone have a 1989 240sx crossmemeber ? sorry if these quetsnios are noobie cuz i m new… -thanks ---
**Author:** ![SRBURG13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@SRBURG13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRBURG13)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/parts/137804/2 "2004-08-15T01:12:55Z")
YEs, you do need a tranny. Search around other Nissan forums, as the numbers for the Redtop and Blacktop motors are different throughout the years. I know Redtop is 205, and the blacktops go from 215 to 250, all depending on year. Lots of places have 240 crossmembers. Wreckers do and a couple of members may from parts cars. Al’s Auto Parts (SpeedWorks) , 447-3282 has the cross member I beleive and they can also give you info on the engine swap and engines. They are one of our sponsors. Basic swap is around the $5000 - $6000 mark if you don’t do the labour yourself. Include room for the surprise costs that almost always occur (~$1000). You will probably need a clutch, and blow off valve aftermarket. Better off buying a front clip in the $3500 range. This will almost guarantee you’ll have all the goodies you’ll need for the swap. So much info, so little time to explain. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_SARS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@Mr\_SARS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_SARS)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/parts/137804/3 "2004-08-16T16:09:10Z")
^ I had always thought that there was no difference in the Blacktop SR20DET and the Redtop in the 180sx’s. Only in S14’s+ did the hp rating change… :? not too sure though. ---
**Author:** ![1mns13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/8491ac/32.png) [@1mns13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1mns13)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/parts/137804/4 "2004-08-16T17:35:27Z")
> [@Mr\_SARS](#): > > ^ I had always thought that there was no difference in the Blacktop SR20DET and the Redtop in the 180sx’s. Only in S14’s+ did the hp rating change… :? not too sure though. Correct. S13 20X hpS14 22X hp. S15 24Xhp. ---
**Author:** ![strider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@strider](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/strider)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/parts/137804/5 "2004-08-13T12:40:13Z")
hi i m new i am wondering how much would it be for a sr20det engine s13. do i have to buy a tranny for it too? or can i use the one out of the 240 fastback its a 1989 model. i would like to know the difference between a black and red clip and anyone have a 1989 240sx crossmemeber ? sorry if these quetsnios are noobie cuz i m new… -thanks ---
**Author:** ![SRBURG13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@SRBURG13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRBURG13)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/parts/137804/6 "2004-08-15T01:12:55Z")
YEs, you do need a tranny. Search around other Nissan forums, as the numbers for the Redtop and Blacktop motors are different throughout the years. I know Redtop is 205, and the blacktops go from 215 to 250, all depending on year. Lots of places have 240 crossmembers. Wreckers do and a couple of members may from parts cars. Al’s Auto Parts (SpeedWorks) , 447-3282 has the cross member I beleive and they can also give you info on the engine swap and engines. They are one of our sponsors. Basic swap is around the $5000 - $6000 mark if you don’t do the labour yourself. Include room for the surprise costs that almost always occur (~$1000). You will probably need a clutch, and blow off valve aftermarket. Better off buying a front clip in the $3500 range. This will almost guarantee you’ll have all the goodies you’ll need for the swap. So much info, so little time to explain. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_SARS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@Mr\_SARS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_SARS)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/parts/137804/7 "2004-08-16T16:09:10Z")
^ I had always thought that there was no difference in the Blacktop SR20DET and the Redtop in the 180sx’s. Only in S14’s+ did the hp rating change… :? not too sure though. ---
**Author:** ![1mns13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/8491ac/32.png) [@1mns13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1mns13)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/parts/137804/8 "2004-08-16T17:35:27Z")
> [@Mr\_SARS](#): > > ^ I had always thought that there was no difference in the Blacktop SR20DET and the Redtop in the 180sx’s. Only in S14’s+ did the hp rating change… :? not too sure though. Correct. S13 20X hpS14 22X hp. S15 24Xhp.