# Paths to the White House **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [November 4, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998 "2012-11-04T21:15:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/1 "2012-11-04T21:15:54Z")
[http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/11/02/us/politics/paths-to-the-white-house.html](http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/11/02/us/politics/paths-to-the-white-house.html) Hopefully wait 2 days before sending to the politisuck graveyard? Anyway, pretty cool feature on the NY times’ site. Of the 9 closest states, you can pick who you think will win and it shows the paths to victory for both sides. Good viewer’s guide for when the results start rolling in. If VA and NC get called for Obama early (polls close at 7 and 7:30), it’s basically all over unless Romney runs the table, but Romney is currently ahead in NC. Simpler version based on when the polls close: > **[A Viewer's Guide To Who Will Win The Presidential Election](https://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/a-viewers-guide-to-who-won-the-election)** > > This (probably)\* doesn't have to be all that complicated. Obama has several paths to victory. Romney has fewer. And these are the main ones, organized by the time (EST) that polls close. ![http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2012/11/4/17/enhanced-buzz-wide-19525-1352067141-7.jpg](http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2012/11/4/17/enhanced-buzz-wide-19525-1352067141-7.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/2 "2012-11-05T06:49:54Z")
That’s neat. This shit’s going to be close. Probably because they have exactly the same fucking policies. Obamney 2012! ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/3 "2012-11-05T07:09:03Z")
maybe close in popular vote, but Obama has a big lead in the ways that matter to winning. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/4 "2012-11-05T07:22:19Z")
Anyone want to predict what time we’ll know who the next president will be? I’m thinking around 2am. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/5 "2012-11-05T07:30:26Z")
Looks like 8pm should seal the deal. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/6 "2012-11-05T07:34:26Z")
December. 😉 If Romney wins the popular vote I am sure they will say it was mostly because NYC had very low voter turnout. ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/7 "2012-11-05T07:36:01Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > December. 😉 With the lawsuits that are already being planned and the lawyers already waiting… this is probably the most accurate answer. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/8 "2012-11-05T07:39:25Z")
…2013 😉 (just kidding… sort of) ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/9 "2012-11-05T08:16:41Z")
I think we’ll have a called winner by the networks at 11:00 when the West Coast comes in for Obama. For all intents and purposes, we’ll know well before that if VA/Ohio are called. If NC and/or Florida go blue, it’s going to be an early night for Romney. That’d be ideal. I’m going to be at Democratic HQ downtown, I’d like the party to get rocking as early as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/10 "2012-11-05T08:26:19Z")
Does it matter, we’re all dead at the end of December. ---
**Author:** ![Event](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/event/32/5443_2.png) [@Event](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Event)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/11 "2012-11-05T09:17:58Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > That’s neat. This shit’s going to be close. > > Probably because they have exactly the same fucking policies. Obamney 2012! Popular vote is relatively close, but most (intelligent) staticians have Obama taking it ~305 electoral votes to romneys ~230. The amount of swing states that Romney needs to carry, that he is currently losing in are ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/12 "2012-11-05T09:40:04Z")
The accuracy of these polls, and the election, will come down to how many of these poll identified “likely voters” actually vote. Obama had a huge surge in 2008 with first time voters and there has been a lot of discussion about how many will actually show up this time. ---
**Author:** ![Event](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/event/32/5443_2.png) [@Event](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Event)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/13 "2012-11-05T09:52:46Z")
Nate Silver has a pretty good take on the actual numbers here: > **[Politics](https://www.nytimes.com/section/politics)** > > Politics Worth a read if you have the time, he explains his methods simply. I ended up understanding a lot of what he was saying despite being completely inept at statistics. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/14 "2012-11-05T10:08:32Z")
![http://o.onionstatic.com/images/articles/article/30/30184/Issue_by_issue-Day6-930.jpg](http://o.onionstatic.com/images/articles/article/30/30184/Issue_by_issue-Day6-930.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/15 "2012-11-05T10:55:45Z")
> [@Motocrossx23](#): > > Does it matter, we’re all dead at the end of December. There have been no signs that the end is near… errr… I mean… > [@JayS](#): > > The accuracy of these polls, and the election, will come down to how many of these poll identified “likely voters” actually vote. Obama had a huge surge in 2008 with first time voters and there has been a lot of discussion about how many will actually show up this time. I think there were a lot of “inspired” voters for BHO last time, I fear there are a lot of “motivated” voters for BHO this time. Once you get a taste of the Obeasy money you will do what it takes to keep it coming. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/16 "2012-11-05T10:58:29Z")
I can’t wait for this shit to be over ---
**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/17 "2012-11-05T11:09:11Z")
I seriously wish the media didn’t even cover presendential campaigns. I think all it does is make the candidates ham it up for the camera, say what they think their supporters want to hear, and bas their opponant in hopes of taking away some votes. It would be far better if all they were allowed to do is publish their actual agendas with proper explanations/supporting research so that only educated americans would actually understand what each candidate plans to do for this country instead of idiots and poor fucks voting for whoever says they’ll give them more free assistance. also, IDGAF about abortion or gay marriage. There should be no question on whether or not either should be legal, THEY SHOULD…everyone is entitled to their own beliefs/morals/choices and are responsible for the associated consequences. The whole point of having a seperation of church and state is so that religious beliefs don’t get tangled up in legislation (which we seem to be allowing to happen). If you don’t believe in gay marriage, don’t get gay married. if you don’t believe in abortion, don’t get one. SIMPLE AS THAT. the issues they seem to argue most over really fucking blow my mind. ---------- Post added at 02:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:08 PM ---------- > [@boardjnky4](#): > > I can’t wait for this shit to be over +1 This whole thing is FUCKED ---
**Author:** ![Event](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/event/32/5443_2.png) [@Event](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Event)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/18 "2012-11-05T11:10:14Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > I think there were a lot of “inspired” voters for BHO last time, I fear there are a lot of “motivated” voters for BHO this time. Once you get a taste of the Obeasy money you will do what it takes to keep it coming. The same way I fear there are a lot of people who actually believe that Mitt Romney’s economic plan will put us back on the right track. If only people had a basic understanding of macroeconomics this wouldn’t even be an issue. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/19 "2012-11-05T11:24:34Z")
> [@focusinprogress](#): > > the issues they seem to argue most over really fucking blow my mind. They’ve got to differentiate themselves somehow. Foreign policy? Same. (Bomb fucking everyone.) Deficit spending? Same (be it reducing taxes or raising spending.) Gun control? Same. (Nothing automatic, or owned by anyone who has ever taken Zoloft.) Civil rights? Same. (Take as many as the people will give.) Abortion and gay marriage are about the only things they can safely disagree on without giving up control of the majority of the people. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998/20 "2012-11-05T11:24:35Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > This shit’s going to be close. I don’t think it is going to be that close. Obama is 15% ahead in early voting… picked it up off reuters the other day but cant find the article now. The GOP does better with voting the day of but i maintain that in all western media the elections are made out to be closer than they are to encourage higher turnout… you know, to make you think that voting matters. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paths-to-the-white-house/226998.md?page=2)