# Patriot Glass, Aka redline Aka Howard tanner..Bankruptcy?!?!? **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 30, 2011, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702 "2011-07-30T10:28:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![h0twh3els](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/h0twh3els/32/6615_2.png) [@h0twh3els](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/h0twh3els)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/61 "2011-07-31T11:12:09Z")
> [@Colombia - Venezuala - Ecuador Situation](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/colombia-venezuala-ecuador-situation/44325/5): > > Still wondering how any of you guys got “I’m better than all of you” from this post. Essentially all he’s saying is: > > 1. You should worry more about your own issues rather than someone else’s. > 2. Everyone makes mistakes. > 3. (not one I really agree with) Unless you are doing better than him (Howard), you should not be talking shit. > > Again, that’s just my interpretation of what Ilya said based on my reading comprehension skills which haven’t really failed me that much. FAIL! ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/62 "2011-07-31T11:18:52Z")
Fiction book lovers ITT. ---
**Author:** ![Eatonualive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eatonualive/32/6442_2.png) [@Eatonualive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eatonualive)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/63 "2011-07-31T11:21:00Z")
IMMMM SOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN EVERYBODYPERSONPPL EVERRRRR ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/64 "2011-07-31T11:24:47Z")
> [@Report: GM may buy BMW engines](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/report-gm-may-buy-bmw-engines/44250/47): > > Fiction book lovers ITT. this one? ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/65 "2011-07-31T12:31:23Z")
Ilya is a numb nuts ---
**Author:** ![MclarenGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MclarenGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MclarenGP)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/66 "2011-07-31T13:06:29Z")
Ilya says THE dumbest shit out of anyone here… me included. perma ban. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/67 "2011-07-31T13:22:23Z")
Guys stop the religion stuff ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/68 "2011-07-31T13:27:00Z")
I care as much about his religion as he cares about my lack of religion. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/69 "2011-07-31T13:28:52Z")
I’m the same way . Butttt this is about. Howard not ilyas religous thoughts ---
**Author:** ![cobraki518](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@cobraki518](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cobraki518)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/70 "2011-07-31T14:02:29Z")
Some of us are successful. Some of us have honor and respect. Something Howard does not hold. So please get off your soap box. Howard took great pride in having attitude and treating people with disrespect. I for one have no issue watching the current events unfold. He has shown a track record of disrespect. This is not a case of a group targeting someone. He himself targeted and threatened people. Now it has come back to haunt him. It is only fitting that it is coming full circle. As the saying goes. You see the same people on the way up as you see on the way down. The only reason I am even posting. I hope people that see this stay clear. He has already burned enough people. In response from me. You said “I’m sure most of you have some serious issues of your own (whether it be financially, emotionally, etc.” I have no issues financially or emotionally. I just do not like people who like abusing people. Howard is just another small framed guy who hangs around with other people that for some reason look up to him. We should have all learned a lesson in High School about guys like that. You have no history about his past so hit the bricks. I will use your idea. The problem with our society is we have people like him that try to intimidate everyone else. Then they are upset when the mob they have abused gets sick of it and fights back. > [@Aids Vaccine?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aids-vaccine/44246/63): > > The problem with todays society is people worry about others more than they worry about themselves (and not in a good way). How does this whole thing affect you guys? It doesn’t. > > I’ve never been anywhere near Redline, never met Howard, nor do I know what he did to piss you ladies off. But…ya’ll are a bunch of kids. I’m sure most of you have some serious issues of your own (whether it be financially, emotionally, etc.) to work out. He made his mistakes, and you **surely** will make yours. > > There is maybe a tiny handful of people on this entire forum I would consider to be truly successful. The rest of you? No room to talk. This thread is quite sad…meaning…people finding it appropriate or good that his business is, seemingly, going down. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/71 "2011-07-31T14:08:34Z")
I can honestly say alll of my stuff is mine and paid for . I don’t make great money or live a great lifestyle. But I do what I do with pride due to the fact my kids have all they need and want . There happy and I have fun . Do I wish I was better off ? Sure do but if and when I do get better off it will be my work and drive that got me there . Not someone else ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/72 "2011-07-31T14:24:23Z")
Well said, Johnny. ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/73 "2011-07-31T19:52:50Z")
:rofl Wow @ the reaction. > [@Colombia - Venezuala - Ecuador Situation](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/colombia-venezuala-ecuador-situation/44325/5): > > Still wondering how any of you guys got “I’m better than all of you” from this post. Essentially all he’s saying is: > > 1. You should worry more about your own issues rather than someone else’s. > 2. Everyone makes mistakes. > 3. (not one I really agree with) Unless you are doing better than him (Howard), you should not be talking shit. > > Again, that’s just my interpretation of what Ilya said based on my reading comprehension skills which haven’t really failed me that much. Evidently, you’re the only one who comprehended that correctly. The rest of you? Reading \> you. My post had NOTHING to do with me being better than you guys. You all can relax now. ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/74 "2011-08-02T11:40:29Z")
> [@Aids Vaccine?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/aids-vaccine/44246/63): > > The problem with todays society is people worry about others more than they worry about themselves (and not in a good way). How does this whole thing affect you guys? It doesn’t. > > I’ve never been anywhere near Redline, never met Howard, nor do I know what he did to piss you ladies off. But…ya’ll are a bunch of kids. I’m sure most of you have some serious issues of your own (whether it be financially, emotionally, etc.) to work out. He made his mistakes, and you **surely** will make yours. > > There is maybe a tiny handful of people on this entire forum I would consider to be truly successful. The rest of you? No room to talk. This thread is quite sad…meaning…people finding it appropriate or good that his business is, seemingly, going down. Yeah you guys jumped on Ilya hate bandwagon hard here, and he def. didn’t put himself on a high horse, Everything he said was already stated by many other people on here, and agreed upon by many of the people who just shit on him for saying it! Just because it came from him, this shit blew up. I am leaving it at that. Todays problems are 100% people feel the need to stick their dick into shit they dont belong in. Bumper to bumper stand stills, becasue people NEED to act like fools to see a car accident, a cop pulling someone over, or like it was last night on the northway by Wolf, some guy pulled over to change his babies diaper on the shoulder! Mind your own fucking business. Do you really give a shit if Lindsey Lohan goes to jail? Only reason you should is to A: not follow in her failed footsteps or B: be thankfull she isnt on the street putting you or your loved ones in jeopardy. Any other reason people feel the need to follow that shit is worthless sheep like shit… Mind your own fucking business. I AM NOT BEING HYPOCRITICAL ABOUT THE HOWARD/RLMS SHIT WITH MY ABOVE STATEMENT. More or less it is my business to keep tabs on it. Why: Close friends have been threatened by that ass hole and his bro squad, I have no doubt I will be on the hit list too, “guilty by association” I am sure will be the childish excuse. So as far as I am concerned, I am watching my back, my wifes back, my houses back, my cars backs, my friends backs and any other means these scumbags might directly or in-directly interact with me. This is a small community if you honestly look at it in the big picture. So yeah, I feel the fucking need to keep tabs on shit going on that may or may not have to do with this shit, justified in my head I guess based on my own personal safety and well being. As I hope and assume that they both are doing (if they are as “smart” as us) the same thing we are now, reading this and staying on the same page with us. I, John, Nick, etc. for the most part have no intentions of escalating this “battle” any more, unless provoked by the other side of the battle field. STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM US. Dont talk, text, call, mail, send others to communicate, dont look at us… just act like we dont exist. If we walk by or see you at a show, race, in at American Eagle in the mall, out at dinner or a bar just mind your own fucking business, as I will do the same. If not, fear not, I will simply call the authorities, my lawyer and the next time we will interact will be infront of a judge. > [@FS : 5.0 engine from a 92 with 71,xxx](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-5-0-engine-from-a-92-with-71-xxx/43845/18): > > No government bail out for them? > > In this economy you have to work even harder for less, many companies can’t/wont and they fail. For every company that does fail though there is a new opportunity for someone else. In school I remember hearing the saying “work smarter not harder”. Well that really fucked up the society lately hasn’t it! Kids have phones, internet, computers, etc to do the thinking for them… All the while assume that is what they meant by “work smarter”. So the “not harder” part is damn true, but the entire statement as a whole they are failing at. I think the intent of that slogan was to instill ethics, morals, respect and self worth in people. Work smarter by making good business decisions; respect the customer and potential customers as you would your own family. Put forth the effort to exceed expectations not just skimp by “good enough for now”. Form your decisions so that will they will make it easier for people to respect you as a person and a business. Look at a lot of new business that are making it and doing a “good” job. Many are “old skool” based. Do one to others as you would want done to yourself. They might not skyrocket to the top instantly, like RLMS, but chances are they will be going healthy, unlike RLMS, for much longer! > [@Report: GM may buy BMW engines](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/report-gm-may-buy-bmw-engines/44250/45): > > How many businesses that file for bankruptcy actually make it out alive? > > Usually it starts with closing down a few stores but eventually they all get closed down, just like Border’s Books just went thru. > > Dakota Steakhouse also filed for it. The Latham one abruptly closed on Monday, after my work had already delivered there. They do paul. I am not going any farther right now with that, but I have local examples. Bankruptcy isnt a 100% fail at business. Simply put it can be as simple as over spending, or under thinking. Its just sometimes a necessary step to continue on trying. What if I decided to buy RLMS if I had the money? I could, and they wouldnt miss a beat. I would pay off the cars he has liens on that couldn’t afford apparently, then liquidate them. Machinery I am sure they dont own, do the same. Eliminate the failures, focus on whats working and keep pushing forward. 2 words GM Bailout /point proven. ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/75 "2011-08-02T11:58:29Z")
> [@Put the slicks and skinnies on the Trans Am today \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/put-the-slicks-and-skinnies-on-the-trans-am-today-pics/44363/5): > > Yeah you guys jumped on Ilya hate bandwagon hard here, and he def. didn’t put himself on a high horse, Everything he said was already stated by many other people on here, and agreed upon by many of the people who just shit on him for saying it! Just because it came from him, this shit blew up. I am leaving it at that. I disagree here, he most definitely thinks he is better than 99% of us. > [@Put the slicks and skinnies on the Trans Am today \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/put-the-slicks-and-skinnies-on-the-trans-am-today-pics/44363/5): > > Todays problems are 100% people feel the need to stick their dick into shit they dont belong in. Bumper to bumper stand stills, becasue people NEED to act like fools to see a car accident, a cop pulling someone over, or like it was last night on the northway by Wolf, some guy pulled over to change his babies diaper on the shoulder! Mind your own fucking business. Do you really give a shit if Lindsey Lohan goes to jail? Only reason you should is to A: not follow in her failed footsteps or B: be thankfull she isnt on the street putting you or your loved ones in jeopardy. Any other reason people feel the need to follow that shit is worthless sheep like shit… Mind your own fucking business. Fully agree with this. Human curiosity is one thing, but people are fuckin’ gossip kings/queens in this world. Get a life of your own and stop giving a fuck about what other people are doing. > [@Put the slicks and skinnies on the Trans Am today \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/put-the-slicks-and-skinnies-on-the-trans-am-today-pics/44363/5): > > Close friends have been threatened by that ass hole and his bro squad. That’s the entire problem right there, I can’t deal with that shit. It happened to me via mutual Facebook friend. Absolutely nothing ever came of it due to the “other person” talking themselves out of wanting a problem. > [@Put the slicks and skinnies on the Trans Am today \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/put-the-slicks-and-skinnies-on-the-trans-am-today-pics/44363/5): > > I, John, Nick, etc. for the most part have no intentions of escalating this “battle” any more, unless provoked by the other side of the battle field. > > STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM US. Dont talk, text, call, mail, send others to communicate, dont look at us… just act like we dont exist. If we walk by or see you at a show, race, in at American Eagle in the mall, out at dinner or a bar just mind your own fucking business, as I will do the same. Exactly. I could care less about any of them, Howard never did anything to me at all – just Tony. I think he’s a piss-poor tuner but that’s just my opinion, I don’t go out of my way to make him lose customers. > [@Put the slicks and skinnies on the Trans Am today \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/put-the-slicks-and-skinnies-on-the-trans-am-today-pics/44363/5): > > If not, fear not, I will simply call the authorities, my lawyer and the next time we will interact will be infront of a judge. I wish I had that kind of restraint, it’s the smarter thing to do if that situation were to arise. > [@Put the slicks and skinnies on the Trans Am today \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/put-the-slicks-and-skinnies-on-the-trans-am-today-pics/44363/5): > > In school I remember hearing the saying “work smarter not harder”. Well that really fucked up the society lately hasn’t it! Kids have phones, internet, computers, etc to do the thinking for them… All the while assume that is what they meant by “work smarter”. So the “not harder” part is damn true, but the entire statement as a whole they are failing at. Society has created a new kind of stupid! The movie **Idiocracy** comes to mind here… > [@Put the slicks and skinnies on the Trans Am today \*pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/put-the-slicks-and-skinnies-on-the-trans-am-today-pics/44363/5): > > Bankruptcy isnt a 100% fail at business. Simply put it can be as simple as over spending, or under thinking. Its just sometimes a necessary step to continue on trying. K-mart went through bankruptcy before and they wont go the fuck away. :lol ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/76 "2011-08-02T12:11:54Z")
/\ +reps for the most of the above Ilya’s response to this thread COULD be assumed he was saying I am better than thou, IF you wanted to take it that way when also considering feelings you might have towards his other posts. He didnt say, That guy sucks and I dont becasue XXXX. Its not that cut and dry I know, but what ever. No skin off my nutts one way or another. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/77 "2011-08-02T13:21:58Z")
I’m pretty sure the post looked different before the edit FYI. ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/78 "2011-08-02T13:34:41Z")
> [@GT35R](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt35r/44365/11): > > I’m pretty sure the post looked different before the edit FYI. Ohh his! I dunno i didnt see the original if it was. MR ADMIN MAN WHO SEES ALL! ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/79 "2011-08-02T13:37:47Z")
> [@You know you're comfortable with your sexuality when....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-know-youre-comfortable-with-your-sexuality-when/44361/14): > > Ohh his! > > I dunno i didnt see the original if it was. MR ADMIN MAN WHO SEES ALL! From what I recall it was a rather bold statement which is why even I was shocked to see it and commented as I did. And I’m usually on his side. :lurk ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/80 "2011-08-02T13:45:08Z")
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