# Patriot Glass, Aka redline Aka Howard tanner..Bankruptcy?!?!? **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 30, 2011, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702 "2011-07-30T10:28:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![slwrthnu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slwrthnu/32/6296_2.png) [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/121 "2011-08-06T23:10:24Z")
> [@sidekick 3/ lx vs i fone](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sidekick-3-lx-vs-i-fone/44288/5): > > According to the paper it’s more of a reorganization. that is what chapter 11 bankruptcy means…it doesn’t mean he’s going out of business. > [@best hockey fight ever](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/best-hockey-fight-ever/44314/7): > > one thing that really stands out to me is… > > “First Niagara Bank is the only creditor with secured debt in the case, meaning there is a chance the bank will recover some or all of what it has lent to Patriot. **The bank has a “blanket lien” and a vehicle loan totaling $518,000.** ” just so people don’t read this wrong, this does not mean that the vehicle loan totals $518,000. the word and means both loans, but your color portion reads like a fancy media headline skewing the facts to get more attention. ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/122 "2011-08-07T06:25:55Z")
I heard that howard is just like some people on shift, an asshole online but in person very easygoing. LOL ---
**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/123 "2011-08-07T07:39:48Z")
> [@smilies](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smilies/44455/5): > > that is what chapter 11 bankruptcy means…it doesn’t mean he’s going out of business. With the new chapter 11 rules you still owe your creditors everything so after peter, paul & mary are paid he may not have anything left. I hope he does survive for the sake of his employees. ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/124 "2011-08-07T08:23:35Z")
> [@Oh Hi, i upgraded your porsche!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-hi-i-upgraded-your-porsche/44452/13): > > He is just trying to live up to his new moniker: > > usmc2801 > Shifts NEW asshole. Thank you sarge! At least someone caught on, nobody can take a joke apparently you guys REALLY need to stop taking the internetz soooo seriously. Cry me a river. ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/125 "2011-08-07T09:11:20Z")
> [@smilies](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/smilies/44455/7): > > I heard that howard is just like some people on shift, an asshole online but in person very easygoing. LOL some members here would have to say thats not the truth ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/126 "2011-08-07T10:29:43Z")
Yeah I was being sarcastic. The whole “dickhead online and cool in person” thing makes me laugh. ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/127 "2011-08-08T07:51:45Z")
> [@HudsonFalcon"](#): > > With the new chapter 11 rules you still owe your creditors everything so after peter, paul & mary are paid he may not have anything left. I hope he does survive for the sake of his employees. Yeah that sums it up rather well actually. The business still relies on: - I stashed away a piss ton of cash, so once I pay everyone back (not really I, but thats an entirely different lesson) we will still have some money to keep going. BUT if that was the case, why would I need a loan for a simple little car??? - Someone with money/credit thinks you still have a shot at keeping the business going, and jumps in the boat with you, keeping you afloat. either way, its not easy, and that why a lot of them end poorly. ---
**Author:** ![ramairetransam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@ramairetransam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ramairetransam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/128 "2011-08-08T07:59:59Z")
I heard from a friend that know Howard somewhat and was tuned by him before he was big and they also did a clutch that Howards brother runs the glass and Howard does the cars? ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702/129 "2011-08-08T08:13:02Z")
A long time ago it was like that [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/patriot-glass-aka-redline-aka-howard-tanner-bankruptcy/259702.md?page=6)