# PC gamer elitists **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 22, 2014, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pc-gamer-elitists/234609 "2014-01-22T08:22:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pc-gamer-elitists/234609/1 "2014-01-22T08:22:43Z")
Any of you run higher end video cards like the AMD 7990? If so do you have any heat issues? I’m building a new setup for password cracking and debating between running two 7970’s vs one 7990. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pc-gamer-elitists/234609/2 "2014-01-22T08:49:08Z")
Couple things…first I’m surprised that password cracking requires any sort of video performance at all. Figured it all be CPU/RAM I’d probably run two of the R9 290Xs (keep in mind I’m aiming at Battlefield 4 performance) [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202058](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202058) Also these should run fine on air cooling, provided you have adequate air cooling. I have two of these [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185054](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185054) and they push serious air. You could also go liquid cooling if the rig is really getting hot. ---
**Author:** ![honda4life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/honda4life/32/5300_2.png) [@honda4life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/honda4life)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pc-gamer-elitists/234609/3 "2014-01-22T08:49:41Z")
I’m running a 7850 and it rarely gets hot. I’ve always used stock heatsink a and they work well. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pc-gamer-elitists/234609/4 "2014-01-22T08:52:47Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > Couple things…first I’m surprised that password cracking requires any sort of video performance at all. Figured it all be CPU/RAM > **[Password Cracking Evolution | Infosec](https://www.infosecinstitute.com/resources/hacking/password-cracking-evolution/)** > > In this article, my goal is to show the evolution in password cracking era how hackers/crackers cracked passwords around 10 years ago and how they are cracki Basically you get insane performance from a GPU vs CPU Older article but does a good job explaining it with stats > **[Password cracking, mining, and GPUs](https://blog.erratasec.com/2011/06/password-cracking-mining-and-gpus.html#.Ut_3ehAo7aQ)** > > People imagine that sophisticated hacking requires sophisticated computers. The truth is that almost everything a hacker does can be done wi... ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pc-gamer-elitists/234609/5 "2014-01-22T08:53:48Z")
Count me in. ---
**Author:** ![honda4life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/honda4life/32/5300_2.png) [@honda4life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/honda4life)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pc-gamer-elitists/234609/6 "2014-01-22T08:54:02Z")
If you do liquid cooling please don’t buy that bullshit self contained system it’s just a watery oil base that does nothing, get a direct heat pipe contact heatsink it cools wayyyyyy better. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pc-gamer-elitists/234609/7 "2014-01-22T10:18:02Z")
The only reason I would need to liquid cool is dual 7990s I could keep 3-4 7970s fine with air Hmmm 290x vs 7970 > **[HD 7970 vs R9 290X oclHashcat Performance](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16XlbU5pZjzAdgMbbcvlSbbbZSS1zNbO7cmzPYva7LTM/edit?usp=sharing)** > > Sheet1 > > Configuration: Ubuntu 12. 04. 03 LTS, Catalyst 13. 12, oclHashcat 1. 00,@ jmgosney > Benchmark: Length 8 brute force, single hash > Parameters: Using highest optimal- n and- u values > Side-by-side comparison, keeping all things equal > 290X... ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pc-gamer-elitists/234609/8 "2014-01-22T12:15:41Z")
Here’s a current benchmarking of the high end video cards. [http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high\_end\_gpus.html](http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html) I’m not sure if they are really benchmarked on what would matter more for your application of them. 3-4 GPUs is probably going to run pretty hot I would think. More so because they are stacked tightly with not a whole lot of exhaust. I picked the 290 because of the Mantle, which adds performance increase to Battlefield. [http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/mantle/pages/mantle.aspx](http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/mantle/pages/mantle.aspx) Again, not sure if that applies to you. ---
**Author:** ![honda4life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/honda4life/32/5300_2.png) [@honda4life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/honda4life)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pc-gamer-elitists/234609/9 "2014-01-22T14:52:00Z")
Hmmmmm, why not just do 2x cards with single hour to keep the heat down? ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pc-gamer-elitists/234609/10 "2014-01-22T16:07:57Z")
> [@honda4life](#): > > Hmmmmm, why not just do 2x cards with single hour to keep the heat down? They will be running for 2-3 days at a time maxed out. I would prefer a setup that doesn’t need to be liquid cooled. You can usually get away with 3-4 7970’s on air I know a lot of people run dual high end cards for video gaming which is why I was curious if anyone on here was doing anything higher end. ---
**Author:** ![TurboLT1SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/13edae/32.png) [@TurboLT1SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboLT1SS)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pc-gamer-elitists/234609/11 "2014-01-22T20:29:07Z")
This is a silly question. Go for the 7990. SHA-256 mining works wonderfully on them. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pc-gamer-elitists/234609/12 "2014-02-03T04:41:03Z")
> [@honda4life](#): > > If you do liquid cooling please don’t buy that bullshit self contained system it’s just a watery oil base that does nothing, get a direct heat pipe contact heatsink it cools wayyyyyy better. The corsair ones look promising, have you used them before?