# Peanut Jelly Butters @ gym **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [May 26, 2009, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/peanut-jelly-butters-gym/244370 "2009-05-26T06:44:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 31
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/peanut-jelly-butters-gym/244370/31 "2009-05-26T11:57:43Z")
> [@OFFICIAL FawK HOCKEY, LETS DRINK THREAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-fawk-hockey-lets-drink-thread/18528/12): > > For those trying to lose/gain weight… > > “Remember,no one has ever EVER has NOT lost weight under controlled conditions in research when a caloric deficit has been imposed. Conversely, not ever in the history of research has someone achieved continual weight loss under hypercaloric conditions.” > > For the low-carb freaks… > > "Low carb diets promote weight loss by a few different mechanisms. First, cutting carbs out reduces calories. 2nd, carb reduction leads to a reduction in intramuscular water associated with glycogen storage. 3rd, a proportional increase in protein help control hunger, and thus less calories are consumed. > > HOWEVER. > > What ketards tend to do is cite research comparing low-protein diets with adequate protein diets. Duh, of course adequate protein is going to be the better choice. Also, it’s not a matter of black-and-white; varying carb levels suit varying training volumes. Desk job folks who exercise 3 hours per week & sit the rest of the time are going to require less carbs than guys who train 5 days a week for 90 minutes a shot. Lotta contingencies here that have to be considered. One thing is certain though, there’s is no “metabolic advantage” to carb reduction. There IS, however, a host of advantages to a diet that contains sufficient protein compared to a diet that doesn’t – regardless of carb intake. > > Here’s an example of controlled research comparing keto & nonketo dieting (both groups with adequately matched protein intakes, with food provided by the lab instead of self-reported): > > [http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/83/5/1055](http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/83/5/1055) " travis, stop quoting other people work and put in ur own 2 cents. the best diet i have come across is a KETO. this is about 60-65% fat, 30% pro and 5% carbs (from green leafy veggies). this diet forces you to burn up the glycogen stores and use fat as a main energy source. this diet can be taxing though because of the high concentration of saturated fats and what i noticed, as soon as u stop it u are incredibly gassy and i had major digestion issues for about 1.5 weeks. i can only assume this was because of the amount of fat i was eating and the lack of fiber that when re-intoduced into my system, it went crazy and i was blowing up like a baloon. a carb cycle is great too. 3 days low carbs, 1 day high carbs. what people dont understand is that cardio done fasted is the best. as soon as u wake up, hit 45 mins cardio with nothing in your belly. this is also when u are in a low glycogen storage state but…u are also catobolic so i choose not to. one other misconception is how hard u do cardio. mainly u want to keep your heart rate at around 65% your max rate. anything higher and its a cardiovascular exercise and your body going into a reserve state where its going to save fat stores. HIIT is also another good way to lose some fat lbs but only do it for 2 weeks or so. have read articles that it will tax your muscles in a bad way. so do some reasearch on it if u choose to try it because i see many people doing it wrong. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/peanut-jelly-butters-gym/244370)._