# Pens @ PNC Park

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**Created:** [June 14, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pens-pnc-park/202989 "2009-06-14T21:13:47Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pens-pnc-park/202989/19 "2009-06-17T15:09:42Z")

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> [@FYI: National Fuel Rebates](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fyi-national-fuel-rebates/40499/6):
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> low priced pirates tickets are part of the deal the pirates made with the city to get the stadium built. a certain % of the tickets have to be $10 or less for like X# of years. old man rooney held the city hostage then told his season ticket holders “oh yeah…give me a few thousand for a seat license” those cheap assholes coulda built their own stadium. i’ve gave everyone the numbers many times about how a baseball stadium gets used creating more revenue for the city than a football stadium that gets used less than 1/3 of the baseball stadium.

we get it. The pirates as an organization make money. They have a nice stadium that is good for the city.

What you don’t seem to realize is that noone gives a fucks less about a team that is comfortable being losers. They trade away any hope of having a decent team and call it a rebuilding process, that’s a bunch of shit. Management wants their money and knows they can never be competitive with the current situation so they make it up with a dirt cheap roster. That is fine for the people in the pirates organization who are making the money, but it sucks for the fans.

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