# Pens @ PNC Park **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 14, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pens-pnc-park/202989 "2009-06-14T21:13:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 32
**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pens-pnc-park/202989/32 "2009-06-18T14:52:08Z")
> [@2007 man of the year](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2007-man-of-the-year/40503/5): > > pgh is long accused of being fairweather fans…but when the weather is stormy and coudy for 16 years, you kinda dont want to even bother. when they were good in the early 90’s, they had a lot of fans. its not about winning a world series, its about at least being semi-decent. forget salary cap issues. money has nothing to do with it., the yankees spend the most every year, they dont win it every year. if the pirates could be like 81-81 for a few seasons, people would have a reason to be excited. when you know 70 wins is a goal, you dont get excited. Exactly! My thoughts were summed up perfectly by this post. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pens-pnc-park/202989)._