# People with pacemakers. V. You are not OK.
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [August 11, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094 "2008-08-11T20:54:42Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
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### Author:  [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/1 "2008-08-11T20:54:42Z")
> **[Defcon: Excuse me while I turn off your pacemaker](https://venturebeat.com/2008/08/08/defcon-excuse-me-while-i-turn-off-your-pacemaker/)**
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> The Defcon conference is the wild and woolly version of Black Hat for the unwashed masses of hackers. It always has its share of unusual hacks. The oddest so far is a collaborative academic effort …
For those to lazy to click.
Step 1 - Defcon Conerence.
Step 2 - Learn to turn off pacemakers.
Step 3 - ???
Step 4 - Profit.
he [Defcon](http://www.defcon.org/) conference is the wild and woolly version of [Black Hat](http://www.blackhat.com/) for the unwashed masses of hackers. It always has its share of unusual hacks. The oddest so far is a collaborative academic effort where medical device security researchers have figured out how to turn off someone’s pacemaker via remote control. They previously [disclosed the paper](http://www.secure-medicine.org/icd-study/icd-study.pdf) at a conference in May. But the larger point of the vulnerability of all wirelessly-controlled medical devices remains a hot topic here at the show in Las Vegas.
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### Author:  [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2008, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/2 "2008-08-11T20:56:43Z")
thanks for the cliffs
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### Author:  [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/3 "2008-08-12T02:21:00Z")
Hah, thats great. On of switch for the masses.
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### Author:  [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/4 "2008-08-12T06:09:09Z")
Darwin says no. _click_
Seriously though, some crazy shit.
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### Author:  [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/5 "2008-08-12T06:26:10Z")
wowzers nice
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### Author:  [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/6 "2008-08-12T06:33:55Z")
thats wrong on so many levels
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### Author:  [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/7 "2008-08-12T06:37:44Z")
i saw this… crazy…
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/8 "2008-08-12T07:02:56Z")
It amazes me that they would design something this critical that could communicate on an unencrypted frequency.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/9 "2008-08-12T07:06:52Z")
> [@JayS](#):
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> It amazes me that they would design something this critical that could communicate on an unencrypted frequency.
I would guess pacemaker companies are not the most security minded people…
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### Author:  [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/10 "2008-08-12T07:10:27Z")
you would thing it has a range like 50ft or so
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/11 "2008-08-12T07:10:58Z")
I find it rather reassuring that it took 2 years of funded research at a major university to crack it.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/12 "2008-08-12T07:13:16Z")
> [@Fry](#):
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> I find it rather reassuring that it took 2 years of funded research at a major university to crack it.
Yea I just noticed that part of the article…
If it took them two years to crack it…Im sure you won’t have every idiot online being able to recreate this attack.
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### Author:  [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/13 "2008-08-12T07:13:27Z")
Faraday shirts FTW
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/14 "2008-08-12T07:14:00Z")
> [@Locutus](#):
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> Faraday shirts FTW
LOL
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/15 "2008-08-12T07:15:27Z")
> [@Fry](#):
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> I find it rather reassuring that it took 2 years of funded research at a major university to crack it.
It always takes longer to build a path than to walk down one someone already built for you.
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/16 "2008-08-12T07:17:06Z")
Unless they find the only passable route and build a wall. :eyebrow:
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2008, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-pacemakers-v-you-are-not-ok/53094/17 "2008-08-12T07:18:21Z")
If you spend two years trying to break any technology that needs to be accessible remotely it will happen…