# Photo of a man on NY Subway tracks moments before death published by the Post

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**Created:** [December 5, 2012, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667 "2012-12-05T05:59:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/1 "2012-12-05T05:59:03Z")

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> The photographer, R. Umar Abbasi, snapped at least two photos of Han before he was run over by the downtown Q train. The married father-of-one sustained critical injuries and was later pronounced dead at Roosevelt Hospital. One of the haunting photos Abbasi took graces the front page of the Post this morning, incurring the ire of readers who want to know why no help was extended to the injured Han in lieu of capturing the moment for posterity. Abbasi claims that he was using his camera’s flash to warn the train’s conductor, possibly suggesting that the photos were incidental. The Post further defends Abbasi, saying he wasn’t strong enough to lift Han off the tracks.  
> [http://gawker.com/5965447/photo-of-mans-imminent-demise-covers-front-page-of-the-new-york-post-sparks-outrage?tag=ki-suk-han](http://gawker.com/5965447/photo-of-mans-imminent-demise-covers-front-page-of-the-new-york-post-sparks-outrage?tag=ki-suk-han)

The pusher has turned himself in [Subway death: Man killed after 'being pushed in front of New York train' in Times Square | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2242963/Subway-death-Man-killed-pushed-New-York-train-Times-Square.html)

> a passenger who witnessed a man being crushed by a subway train today spoke of his anger at the failure of 18 people on the platform to save him – including the photographer who had time to take chilling pictures of his final moments. Patrick Gomez, who admitted that he also ‘froze’ at the scene, said it was a ‘real shame’ that no-one had the courage to ‘step up’ and attempt to rescue Mr Han. Gomez, 37, said: ‘People who were on the platform could have pulled him up but they didn’t have the courage. They just didn’t react like that.’  
> [Subway death: New York Post photographer claims he could not help 'doomed' Ki Suk Han | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2243344/Father-pushed-death-subway-train-tracks-60-SECONDS-tried-help--photographer-took-THAT-picture-claims-closer-did-nothing.html) :eek3

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**Author:** ![GearheadNY.com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@GearheadNY.com](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GearheadNY.com)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/2 "2012-12-05T06:02:22Z")

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Pretty cool how everyone sprang into action, huh. Actually not shocked they published the photo, more shocked about how no one did anything.

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**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/3 "2012-12-05T06:24:05Z")

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Not shocking at all… its fucking NYC. Survival of the fitness.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/4 "2012-12-05T07:03:18Z")

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Talk about a Catch-23 situation

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**Author:** ![AVB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avb/32/6751_2.png) [@AVB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AVB)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/5 "2012-12-05T07:28:51Z")

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I’m glad they posted the photo. Censorship in America is out of control IMO.

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**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/6 "2012-12-05T07:51:35Z")

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yea it really is i agree with that.

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**Author:** ![TonyJ124](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tonyj124/32/6380_2.png) [@TonyJ124](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TonyJ124)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/7 "2012-12-05T09:44:55Z")

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What comes around is all around.

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**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/8 "2012-12-05T10:03:57Z")

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Wow, just wow.

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**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/9 "2012-12-05T15:22:54Z")

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Diffusion of responsibility. Google it.

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**Author:** ![GD3Skier](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gd3skier/32/6400_2.png) [@GD3Skier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GD3Skier)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/10 "2012-12-05T18:50:51Z")

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Yup it’s like when someone on a crowded street drops of a heart attack. Most wont call for help because they assume someone else will.

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**Author:** ![DannyboyUpstate](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dannyboyupstate/32/6313_2.png) [@DannyboyUpstate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DannyboyUpstate)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/11 "2012-12-05T19:27:25Z")

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It’s awful. There are more stories about people being saved on the tracks then there are like this one.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/12 "2012-12-05T22:26:56Z")

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Problem is, even if you volunteer to be a hero, risk yourself to save the guy, reach down and just don’t make it in time to save him and he dies, odds are good family will sue you as that’s the wonderful world we live in.

They will claim that you either obstructed him from getting out safely and got in the way, or some other bs reason.

Eff that. Same thing as being fired for stopping a robbery. Take the risk and try to do the right thing, just to get screwed in the end.

Also don’t NY subways have a safety thing in the center of the tracks you can lay in?

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/13 "2012-12-05T22:35:26Z")

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wouldn’t that fall under the good Samaritan law?

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/14 "2012-12-05T22:52:00Z")

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> [@Murrdog9000"](#):
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> wouldn’t that fall under the good Samaritan law?

Never even knew it existed.

> **[Good Samaritan law](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law)**
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> Good Samaritan laws offer legal protection to people who give reasonable assistance to those who are, or whom they believe to be injured, ill, in peril, or otherwise incapacitated. The protection is intended to reduce bystanders' hesitation to assist, for fear of being sued or prosecuted for unintentional injury or wrongful death. An example of such a law in common-law areas of Canada: a Good Samaritan doctrine is a legal principle that prevents a rescuer who has voluntarily helped a victim in Go...

Briefly reading it, there are plenty of holes and clauses that would discourage me from helping. There is even a part where consent has to be given and you can’t rescue people in a wreck unless the car is on fire or else.

Amazing.

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**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/15 "2012-12-06T04:53:27Z")

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The platforms have nothing under them, so you can hide out there.

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/16 "2012-12-06T05:23:10Z")

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haha… nah

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**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/17 "2012-12-06T06:32:24Z")

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Nah to vlad or me? The ones i have been on have all had nothing under them, i don’t know if others are different.

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**Author:** ![d\_gage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d_gage/32/6321_2.png) [@d\_gage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d_gage)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/18 "2012-12-06T07:52:07Z")

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shitty situation…and about people not helping, Back in the day I was a EMT and was eating at a restaurant and someone at a nearby table started choking, and I continued to eat my dinner and not pursue a EMT related job…

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**Author:** ![AVB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avb/32/6751_2.png) [@AVB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AVB)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/19 "2012-12-06T07:59:09Z")

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> [@Murrdog9000"](#):
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> wouldn’t that fall under the good Samaritan law?

Good Samaritan you say?  
[ame][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JlG7q-ld8M[/ame]](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JlG7q-ld8M%5B/ame%5D)

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**Author:** ![pitman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4da419/32.png) [@pitman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pitman)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/photo-of-a-man-on-ny-subway-tracks-moments-before-death-published-by-the-post/265667/20 "2012-12-06T08:43:44Z")

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> [@FS: Clean 1972 Datsun 240z 50 NEW PICS 7/29](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-clean-1972-datsun-240z-50-new-pics-7-29/51205/2):
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> Problem is, even if you volunteer to be a hero, risk yourself to save the guy, reach down and just don’t make it in time to save him and he dies, odds are good family will sue you as that’s the wonderful world we live in.
> 
> They will claim that you either obstructed him from getting out safely and got in the way, or some other bs reason.
> 
> Eff that. Same thing as being fired for stopping a robbery. Take the risk and try to do the right thing, just to get screwed in the end.
> 
> Also don’t NY subways have a safety thing in the center of the tracks you can lay in?

this is true. if you want to volunteer as a hero you need to know the liability that comes along with it.

in ny if someone robs you and breaks their arm they sue your insurance. its alomst releated to this topic

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