# Pic Help - Please

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pic-help-please/95223>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [April 24, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pic-help-please/95223 "2006-04-24T16:50:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Jesse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@Jesse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jesse)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pic-help-please/95223/21 "2006-04-29T18:41:51Z")

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> [@Solarian](#):
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> Because clearly all these guys or gals are hardcore circuit racers that compete professionally and not just dumbasses trying to look like they are. I mean, the concept of someone making their car seem like something it’s obviously not is just preposterous! Nobody would do that. I mean, if the car has 20 degrees of negative camber, that’s only because it routinely takes corners at 200kph, not b/c its owner is a riceboy. You’re right… I was crazy to ever think that.

dude what the fuck? his cars modified for some form of racing obviously.

what do you have for suspension?

better yet, go drive an s13 or s14 with good suspension then go into your car.

then you will understand.

dont talk like youve walked around the block.

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**Author:** ![GT1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5e925/32.png) [@GT1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GT1)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pic-help-please/95223/22 "2006-04-29T21:56:10Z")

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actualyl solarian is right… many of the cars pictured here have completly uslss suspension setups for agressive track lapping.

check the wheel gap and offset of many gt cars in grand am and speedGT cup cars.

then youll see.

i know they look neat. but those cars would BLOW on the track…

to understand you have to hang around race tracks a lot… and i know MANY of you do not…

ive been going to track and learning since i was 6 years old… so ive got a bit of a heads up.

🙂

GT

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**Author:** ![Jesse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@Jesse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jesse)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2006, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pic-help-please/95223/23 "2006-04-30T00:56:14Z")

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i do have a little track experience working for tmp.

like i said earlier these cars are all set up differently for different things

i was not refering to ride height with gt i was comparing fitment and camber

that car is set up for a drift style wich is go as low as you can go for lowest center of gravity for a more predictable car while sliding.

there is nothing wrong with a little negative camber, saying its -10 neg is a huge exaduration its probably max -3 in the front.

gt cars ride height is selected track specific obviously so some courses the car is obviously driven lower and with differnt springs or vice versa.

i think it has to do with the tire stretch solarian. that green car is a little agressive mexican style.

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