# Pistols and Shooting

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [October 11, 2005, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistols-and-shooting/3295 "2005-10-11T18:09:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![SilencingMachine](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silencingmachine/32/7593_2.png) [@SilencingMachine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SilencingMachine)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistols-and-shooting/3295/41 "2005-10-12T09:20:50Z")

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word, that p22 is the hottest piece that can be had for $300 new i assure you. 😉

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistols-and-shooting/3295/42 "2005-10-12T09:39:29Z")

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I would like a handgun but a concealed weapons permit kinda… doesn’t work in NYC.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistols-and-shooting/3295/43 "2005-10-12T10:15:33Z")

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> [@SilencingMachine](#):
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> Walther makes a nice piece. The P99 is hot, but if you like to shoot often the cost of descent quality ammo can add up quickly. If you want to shoot all the time for cheap as hell – pick up a Walther P22. My sister has one, and her husband has a Glock model 17. You can always pick up a bigger caliber weapon later, but you can hone your skills with a .22. Btw if you want to save some $$ on 9mm ammo, you can buy 1k reloaded rounds for dirt cheap, just do a google search.

I would NOT recommend the P22 for target shooting. If you want a 22lr. pistol Browning makes a nice one as does Ruger in the 22/45 and Ruger Mark series.

The P22 is styled after the P99 however the pistol is VERY small and almost a joke with its size. It is not very accurate either. I would say it is an okay fun gun just to blast away cheap .22 lr ammo with, but if you want a .22 that is actually worth shooting Browning or Ruger are the way to go

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**Author:** ![SilencingMachine](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silencingmachine/32/7593_2.png) [@SilencingMachine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SilencingMachine)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistols-and-shooting/3295/44 "2005-10-12T10:21:36Z")

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yeah i can’t speak the the accuracy of the standard barrel version, but i have fired the 5 inch barrel version and i found it to be pretty accurate… doesn’t look quite as cool though…

![http://www.waltheramerica.com/images/WAP22005.jpg](http://www.waltheramerica.com/images/WAP22005.jpg)

and if you want to get a little snky… :snky:

![http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/awc_archangelt.jpg](http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/awc_archangelt.jpg)

btw i know what you’re saying about the size, it IS pretty small… but basically every .22 is… :shrug:

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistols-and-shooting/3295/45 "2005-10-12T11:46:28Z")

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> [@SilencingMachine](#):
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> btw i know what you’re saying about the size, it IS pretty small… but basically every .22 is… :shrug:

The Ruger and Browning .22’s are full size, the Ruger 22/45 which I have also has the same grip size and width as a full size 1911 .45 cal

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**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistols-and-shooting/3295/46 "2005-10-12T12:09:35Z")

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possibly a JnJGunShop opening up?

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistols-and-shooting/3295/47 "2005-10-12T17:28:32Z")

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> [@turbo ls1 ss](#):
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> possibly a JnJGunShop opening up?

Thought about getting the federal firearms dealer license

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**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistols-and-shooting/3295/48 "2005-10-12T22:44:15Z")

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> [@JnJSpdShop](#):
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> Are you being serious here??? You should re-examine that statement. Not having a safety does not make a bad firearm in fact it saves valuable time. In a combat situation would you want to worry about fine motor skills to turn off a safety. Glocks are very accurate right out of the box, and their fail to fire/misfeed rate is almost none existent. That is why they are the choice of the FBI, DEA, Customs (now CBP) and a number of other gov’t agencies. If you are properly trained in handling of a Glock “safe action” pistol you should never need a safety

Relax jay this is why i said it was for law enforcement. There are many stories out there of peopel shooting themselves in the foot or ass with glocks becuase of this, hence for trained law enforcement…god damn man there is no discussion with you. We should have an ask JNJ forum fuck.

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**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistols-and-shooting/3295/49 "2005-10-12T22:50:27Z")

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[http://www.armchairgunshow.com/images/JX-5408%20HK-Usp.jpg](http://www.armchairgunshow.com/images/JX-5408%20HK-Usp.jpg)

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistols-and-shooting/3295/50 "2005-10-13T05:18:45Z")

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> [@Carnut](#):
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> Relax jay this is why i said it was for law enforcement. There are many stories out there of peopel shooting themselves in the foot or ass with glocks becuase of this, hence for trained law enforcement…god damn man there is no discussion with you. We should have an ask JNJ forum fuck.

There is discussion, but when you make a blanket statement like that what kind of response do you expect. That would be like me saying all Hondas are junk. Also you do realize the picture you posted above of the HK USP has a safety but a good majority of them sold don’t have safeties. They are made just like the Glocks. Does that make them junk??

The stories out there of people shooting themselves are due to **untrained** and **dangerous** people owning the firearm, and more likely than not they would’ve shoot themselves with another brand of firearm.

You mentioned trained law enforcement. The law enforcement part doesn’t matter as much as the **trained** part. Glocks are very safe firearms when handled properly. In fact I can tell you if your finger isn’t in the trigger guard the firearm will never fire.

So don’t get your panties in a bind and have a nice day :mamoru:

Also the Ask J&J forum might not be a bad idea either :tup:

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