# Pistool permit..

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [November 14, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193 "2008-11-14T18:51:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![dubbin91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dubbin91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubbin91)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/61 "2010-09-23T09:56:37Z")

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[QUOTE=drvnkd;2358415]How important is taking the class within x time of applying?  
I took the class 5 years back, but never bothered as I was moving around the area a bit and did  
not live in the same place for more than a year or so.

That and how do you go about getting references when you actually know zero hand gun owners?[/QUOTE

You would have to retake the course again, to much time as passed.

Also you don’t need people who have permits, you just need 3 solid references. People just say it looks better to have them.

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**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/62 "2010-09-23T09:59:13Z")

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> [@dubbin91](#):
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> Also you don’t need people who have permits, you just need 3 solid references. People just say it looks better to have them.

You need 4 references for Erie county.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/63 "2010-09-23T10:06:29Z")

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> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> Why wouldn’t she carry?

> [@JayS](#):
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> What kind of firebug are you that you carry fire insurance on your house? You really think it’s going to burn down tomorrow or something?

> [@sedlmeier101](#):
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> that’s like saying, why wear your seatbelt? Do you go out every day planning on getting into an accident?

LOL Really? Do we live in the wild wild west? Is a gun fight going to break out at Pier 1? Is someone going to pull a knife on you at the neighborhood homeowner’s association meeting?

Whatever. I’m against gun control so I’m not trying to say you shouldn’t be able to do what you want. I just find it odd when middle class people of reasonable enough intelligence to not go walking down dark alleys in the ghetto at 2AM find a way to convince themselves that they need to be packing heat for when shit hits the fan like it did in that Wesley Snipes movie they saw on their monthly double date with their college tennis partner and his wife.

And no I don’t have fire insurance or wear seatbelts. I’m sick of being avoided as antisocial nutter for bringing my insurance policy to family fun day at Darien Lake, and you never know when a seatbelt will accidentally discharge.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/64 "2010-09-23T10:18:34Z")

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Remember that carjacking on Parker and Sheridan?  
Tonawanda is rough yo!

In general I think it’s more about being able to carry and not need it than a fear of general safety.  
The closer you get to ‘the county’ the more you fell it’s needed.

edit:[http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article193045.ece](http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article193045.ece)

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**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/65 "2010-09-23T10:30:33Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> I’m sick of being avoided as antisocial nutter for bringing my insurance policy to family fun day at Darien Lake, and you never know when a seatbelt will accidentally discharge.

:bigblap:

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/66 "2010-09-23T10:34:27Z")

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I had two people with permits and two people without for my application.

Like others have said, it’s more about having 4 people with solid backgrounds, or even not so solid backgrounds.

When I say “not so solid”… this was one of my references: [http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article196566.ece](http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article196566.ece). That’s my next door neighbor who I’ve known for 8 years and never thought for a million years would be involved in something like that. While my application was being processed he was arrested. :lolno: I still got approved.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/67 "2010-09-23T10:45:12Z")

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So was she hot?

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**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/68 "2010-09-23T11:24:36Z")

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Im going to be pissed if I get denied due to a bad ref. you think you know someone til you need them as a ref on your gun permit

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/69 "2010-09-23T11:32:15Z")

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> [@ultradriver10000](#):
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> Technically you either need to mail the gun to NY or take it on a plane with you. 😕 I need to get another gun for my wife to cc. Any ideas? Must me small, .38 or above, and have an external safety. Like to keep it under $600.

> [@dubbin91](#):
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> The new Ruger .38 revolver is nice, small, light. It would be a perfect carry for her. Otherwise I would look into something Keltec with there 9mm if you are trying to keep it under $600. if you want over, Khar would be the way to go.

> [@Fry](#):
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> LOL Really? Do we live in the wild wild west? Is a gun fight going to break out at Pier 1? Is someone going to pull a knife on you at the neighborhood homeowner’s association meeting?
> 
> Whatever. I’m against gun control so I’m not trying to say you shouldn’t be able to do what you want. I just find it odd when middle class people of reasonable enough intelligence to not go walking down dark alleys in the ghetto at 2AM find a way to convince themselves that they need to be packing heat for when shit hits the fan like it did in that Wesley Snipes movie they saw on their monthly double date with their college tennis partner and his wife.
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> And no I don’t have fire insurance or wear seatbelts. I’m sick of being avoided as antisocial nutter for bringing my insurance policy to family fun day at Darien Lake, and you never know when a seatbelt will accidentally discharge.

nothing will get you out of a possible “jumping” faster than when you say, “ok, theres 6 of you? grab 7 more and we’ll have a fair fight” while refering to your waist line

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/70 "2010-09-23T11:37:35Z")

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I prefer “Say hello to my little friend.” That lets bad guys know that things are about to go really bad for them.

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**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/71 "2010-09-23T11:37:54Z")

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just called BGC and was told its only about 4 months now to get your permit. how much BS is this? As far as I know Jay was the last person on here to get one in Feb and it took him a lil over a year.

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**Author:** ![FourEyed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/foureyed/32/7216_2.png) [@FourEyed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FourEyed)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/72 "2010-09-23T11:39:29Z")

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:picard: Fry… I don’t even know where to begin.

I just know that I value my life enough to protect it. If something ever does happen to you, I hope the police get there to help within the first 15 seconds.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/73 "2010-09-23T11:41:02Z")

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lol I ain’t skurred.

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/74 "2010-09-23T11:42:07Z")

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The way I see it, I can carry a gun in my waist band for 20 years and NEVER have to use it, but that one day when my family and I are sitting in my living room watching a movie and 3 burglars bust through the door and I protect my family, that gun will have paid for it self ten fold.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/75 "2010-09-23T11:52:06Z")

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Dude that’s fucking paranoid.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/76 "2010-09-23T12:51:21Z")

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> [@dreid](#):
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> just called BGC and was told its only about 4 months now to get your permit. how much BS is this? As far as I know Jay was the last person on here to get one in Feb and it took him a lil over a year.

I’m going to call huge BS just because it has NEVER been that fast in Erie County, even before the “Obama rush”. I suppose it’s possible that Erie County realized this was a revenue generator and actually hired an extra person or two for the permit office. That still leaves the portion that’s done by the local PD though, and the Amherst detective who did mine said he was just swamped with applications to go through.

Bottom line, who cares how long it takes. You’ve been talking about this since 2007.  
2007: [http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?24662-Any-GLOCK-Owners-on-the-board](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?24662-Any-GLOCK-Owners-on-the-board)  
2008: [http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?52535-Gun-guys](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?52535-Gun-guys)…-step-in-please…-buying-my-first-gun&p=983315&viewfull=1#post983315  
2009: [http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?46014-best-place-to-buy-ar15-m16-rifle&p=1245511&viewfull=1#post1245511](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?46014-best-place-to-buy-ar15-m16-rifle&p=1245511&viewfull=1#post1245511)

If you would have just got off your ass and got the application in you’d have the permit by now. It’s a tiny amount of work and a whole lot of waiting for a letter in the mail. 🙂

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**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/77 "2010-09-23T13:02:04Z")

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really not a pain in the ass.

i took a class, i can give you the info…lady at my work teaches it…you get the application there, notarized by them and a certificate that you took it…mail it in…they DO check your references… 9 months ish later …voila

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/78 "2010-09-23T13:30:37Z")

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WTH: 4 references.

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**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/79 "2010-09-23T13:59:37Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> I’m going to call huge BS just because it has NEVER been that fast in Erie County, even before the “Obama rush”. I suppose it’s possible that Erie County realized this was a revenue generator and actually hired an extra person or two for the permit office. That still leaves the portion that’s done by the local PD though, and the Amherst detective who did mine said he was just swamped with applications to go through.
> 
> Bottom line, who cares how long it takes. You’ve been talking about this since 2007.  
> 2007: [http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?24662-Any-GLOCK-Owners-on-the-board](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?24662-Any-GLOCK-Owners-on-the-board)  
> 2008: [http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?52535-Gun-guys](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?52535-Gun-guys)…-step-in-please…-buying-my-first-gun&p=983315&viewfull=1#post983315  
> 2009: [http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?46014-best-place-to-buy-ar15-m16-rifle&p=1245511&viewfull=1#post1245511](http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?46014-best-place-to-buy-ar15-m16-rifle&p=1245511&viewfull=1#post1245511)
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> If you would have just got off your ass and got the application in you’d have the permit by now. It’s a tiny amount of work and a whole lot of waiting for a letter in the mail. 🙂

lol you dont have to bring up the past. I know im terrible. I actually paid for the class 2 years ago and never went. going the second weekend in oct so you can stop being mean to me lol

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**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pistool-permit/58193/80 "2010-09-23T13:59:52Z")

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wrong place

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