# Pittsburgh International Race Complex **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 6, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935 "2011-12-06T15:34:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/1 "2011-12-06T15:34:28Z")
Newly _named_ race complex outside of Pittsburgh: > **[Pitt Race - Motorsports | Karting | Track Rental | Pittsburgh International...](https://www.pittrace.com/)** > > Pittsburgh International Race Complex caters to sports cars, formula cars, motorcycles and more. Our motorsports complex spans over 400 acres and includes an events center, garages, a karting facility, and vehicle dynamics area with a skidpad with... :ham: > [@some guy named Dan](#): > > Just to keep everyone in the loop, BeaveRun will soon become Pittsburgh International Race Complex with a new website and contact info - [www.pittrace.com](http://www.pittrace.com) > > Why you may ask? New owners who are looking to rebrand the product and kick start a new era. > > It has been just a short time since they have taken the helm but the changes have been coming fast and it is a lot more than a new name and website. > > The entry road pavement project was completed on Friday, we are 2400 ft in to 4800 ft of new trackside & perimeter fencing, two out of six drainage improvement projects have already been completed on the North Track, ground has been broken for 32 new trackside garages on the Wilson Circuit, public water has been connected and there is much more slated. > > The new website will have fresh and complete listings of local hotels, etc and will also feature downloadable track maps. If there is anything anyone needs or has questions about in advance of April’s race, please don’t hesitate to call or e-mail. > > We are looking forward to ChumpCar kicking off the new season and new image! > > Dan ---
**Author:** ![99\_civic\_si](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99_civic_si/32/7319_2.png) [@99\_civic\_si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99_civic_si)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/2 "2011-12-07T03:23:11Z")
> The entry road pavement project was completed on Friday Yay, now you don’t need a rally car to get to the track! ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/3 "2011-12-07T06:22:10Z")
Well now there is no need to argue if the name was beave or beaver, lol. But why throw away years of brand recognition? Unless their was something negative tied to the name “beaverun?” ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/4 "2011-12-07T06:25:40Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > Well now there is no need to argue if the name was beave or beaver, lol. > > But why throw away years of brand recognition? Unless their was something negative tied to the name “beaverun?” The part where they originally promised a track double that size, with ALMS and GrandAM probably didn’t help them. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/5 "2011-12-07T06:33:36Z")
I wasn’t into the politics of the place. I haven’t been there in a few years actually. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/6 "2011-12-07T06:43:25Z")
> [@MPD47](#): > > The part where they originally promised a track double that size, that part didn’t change: [http://www.pittrace.com/page\_trackmap.html](http://www.pittrace.com/page_trackmap.html) ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/7 "2011-12-07T06:51:24Z")
^ Wow, that looks awesome if they actually add the new track. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/8 "2011-12-07T08:28:56Z")
Yes the track would be better if it was longer, but the addition of the South track would not fix the existing flaws with the North track. Interesting that they did away with the South track’s paddock, so I guess adding is still on the drawing board; Old: ![http://www.na-motorsports.com/Tracks/PA/images/beaverun/Beavercolor.jpg](http://www.na-motorsports.com/Tracks/PA/images/beaverun/Beavercolor.jpg) New: ![http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/jwashburn78/pirc.jpg](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/jwashburn78/pirc.jpg) Overlay: ![http://www.gdecarli.it/Circuiti/USA/USA%20Beaverun%20A.gif](http://www.gdecarli.it/Circuiti/USA/USA%20Beaverun%20A.gif) ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/9 "2011-12-07T09:54:44Z")
I’ve never been to Beaverun, so what are these north track flaws you speak of? Just looking at it on the map it doesn’t look bad. ---
**Author:** ![CaptainKidd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@CaptainKidd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CaptainKidd)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/10 "2011-12-07T10:08:35Z")
Wasn’t there an issue with people running into the wall in a certain corner? ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/11 "2011-12-07T12:18:53Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > I’ve never been to Beaverun, so what are these north track flaws you speak of? Just looking at it on the map it doesn’t look bad. Since this maps has numbers: ![http://www.trackwhores.com/tracks/beaverun.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/f/8f014b6e0d54082a08147ed6a90e074102f3f2fb.jpeg) Front and back straight are drag strips connected by some twisty bits. Based on 140 hp: Coming down the front straight you easily carry 100+ then **hard braking** to 50-60 for T1. T1-T4 can be part throttled or heavy throttled depending on if you want to be smooth or aggressive. T4 moderate braking. T5 moderate braking, uphill, you’ll have to stay abnormally inside (vs. tracking out) to set-up for T6. T6 leads into T7 blind, just figure out your exit and stick to it. T7 over crest, feels off camber coming downhill. Flat on gas 1/3 way down hill. T8 **flatout** T9 **flatout** which sets you up for again **very heavy braking** 105 to 50 T10 painfully tight. T11 Low gear will roast tires going up hill. T12 **flatout** It’s o.k. for track days, I’m not saying never check it out. As hard on brakes as Dunnville. For racing T1 is good for out braking. T1-T4 isn’t that great for side by side racing. T5-T7 there is only one line, so if you get off line to make a pass you lose speed uphill or have a bad entry to T6 or T7. T8 is really the only “turn” you make something work off line. T10 is good for out braking. T11 is good if you are mad at your tires. Cliffs; it’s one line or nothing and two straight aways. Just doesn’t feel rewarding for being smooth. > [@CaptainKidd](#): > > Wasn’t there an issue with people running into the wall in a certain corner? Care to elaborate? I’ve never seen anyone close to a barrier. Runoff is good. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/12 "2011-12-07T12:43:32Z")
:tup: on the rundown. About what I expected in terms of braking just looking at it. I’d probably go a step above the EBC yellows on my car and seriously doubt I could carry T9 flatout especially since you said coming out of T7 is downhill. I can feel the heat from my brakes just thinking about T10 and T1. Since I almost never use them I think it’s time to pull the fog lights and look into some front brake ducting. Rig them up so I can slap the lens back on there for street and just pop them out when I want venting for track days. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/13 "2011-12-07T13:17:47Z")
T9 you’ll always want to go through under power because if you lift you spin. Probably give up speed before then back on. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittsburgh-international-race-complex/218935/14 "2011-12-08T08:14:51Z")
> [@some guy named Dan](#): > > It’ll take a little time so I won’t promise any dates but… **They just finished cutting a path through and the engineer flagged the centerline of the track. The setting and the elevation changes are awesome.** This isn’t paving a corn field though so what is going to make it so awesome is also going to make patience a virtue while we watch it come together. Maybe I’ll bite my tongue.