# Pittspeed Fitness & Nutrition thread update: **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 2, 2006, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittspeed-fitness-nutrition-thread-update/180728 "2006-03-02T22:40:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1397
**Author:** ![06se-r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/c5a1d2/32.png) [@06se-r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/06se-r)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittspeed-fitness-nutrition-thread-update/180728/1397 "2009-05-15T08:27:47Z")
> [@Buffalo Bills 2007 Season Discussion](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-bills-2007-season-discussion/35063/890): > > if you are looking for an easy way out, you fuck up your liver and die. Sounds good to me. maybe now, these lazy fucks will need to bust their ass instead of expecting a pill or supplement to do all the work for them. i have taken that procuct for over 4 years with no problems, and i also used to take xenadrine when it had ephedra. the problem is not use, it is misuse. Of all the people who died from taking ephedra, none were in a normal gym envoronment. korey stringer, vikings lineman, 330lbs, 100 degree summer camp, hmm, wonder why ephedra killed him? that pitcher from the marlins? same thing, and the 1 guy who did die in a gym from it was wearing a sweatsuit while in a sauna… anything you take long term could damage your body. the key is to cycle it on/off, and drink water. i have taken supplelments for over 15 years, and never a kidney failure, stone, problem, nothing. people need to understand how to use the product. it is a shame responsible people can not use something because of idiots. why is it when a supplement can possibly harm you, the public screams outrage, fda pulls it, etc…cigerettes, alcohol, and fast food kill more people in 10 minutes then any supplement ever will… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pittspeed-fitness-nutrition-thread-update/180728)._