# PJB IS WINNING!!!!!11

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-is-winning-11/247932
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic
**Created:** [October 28, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-is-winning-11/247932 "2009-10-28T20:48:26Z")
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### Author: ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-is-winning-11/247932/23 "2009-10-28T21:04:17Z")

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> [@diagram of "who owns who" in the automotive world](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/diagram-of-who-owns-who-in-the-automotive-world/25032/31):
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> one towering difference is that im not in debt :vlad (besides college, but that could be argued as an investment? :lol)

Let’s look at the glass half-empty…

I bet he wasn’t in debt when he was 18, either.

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