# pjb,s e/bay build up

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [December 28, 2008, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027 "2008-12-28T14:38:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/261 "2009-09-07T20:33:26Z")

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Soo close

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/262 "2009-09-07T20:34:14Z")

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> [@WTB: Commuting Beater $500](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-commuting-beater-500/22667/3):
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> Soo close

but so far it seems

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**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/263 "2009-09-07T20:34:17Z")

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> [@So my mom got a Hemi.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-my-mom-got-a-hemi/22654/14):
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> Original stock computer.
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> When started with the maf plugged in unplugging it makes no difference at all. Ill probably end up buying a new maf from Ford. Were just about positive mine is fucked.

You’ll need it calibrated and a factory one will be too small for your setup. Id get an aftermarket one if ya can…

Also there is no MAP sensor in the 88-93 cars, theres a BP sensor(Barometric Pressure)

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**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/264 "2009-09-07T20:34:50Z")

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Trade ya for the quad Paul!

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/265 "2009-09-07T20:34:53Z")

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id say get another maf ,or clean the one ya got .spray brake clean on the elaments and let dry see if that helps it dont take much to throw shit off

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**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/266 "2009-09-07T20:37:51Z")

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> [@LocalNet Interview](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/localnet-interview/21709/45):
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> id say get another maf ,or clean the one ya got .spray brake clean on the elaments and let dry see if that helps it dont take much to throw shit off

:wow Brake clean!!! Nooo wayy. That’ll kill that sensor in a hot second. Usually use a Q-tip with a dab of water

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/267 "2009-09-07T20:37:55Z")

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> [@So my mom got a Hemi.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-my-mom-got-a-hemi/22654/15):
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> You’ll need it calibrated and a factory one will be too small for your setup. Id get an aftermarket one if ya can…
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> Also there is no MAP sensor in the 88-93 cars, theres a BP sensor(Barometric Pressure)

The C&L Ive got requires a stock sensor with their housing.  
I thought the MAP and BP were the same things. I get confused with all this shit.

> [@Just talked to Maxim Afinogenov!!!!! \*\*(NOW WITH PICS of autographed jersey!!!)\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/just-talked-to-maxim-afinogenov-now-with-pics-of-autographed-jersey/22602/52):
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> Trade ya for the quad Paul!

If I didnt already have a quad Id really consider it. I dont need two.

> [@LocalNet Interview](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/localnet-interview/21709/45):
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> id say get another maf ,or clean the one ya got .spray brake clean on the elaments and let dry see if that helps it dont take much to throw shit off

Ill just get another one at Metro if I can.

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**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/268 "2009-09-07T20:39:17Z")

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> [@Have varmint problems?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/have-varmint-problems/22650/25):
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> The C&L Ive got requires a stock sensor with their housing.  
> I thought the MAP and BP were the same things. I get confused with all this shit.

MAP and BP basically do the same things…

I thought you bought a Pro-M for some reasone, didnt know you had a C&L.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/269 "2009-09-07T20:40:22Z")

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brake clean leaves no residue .ask boxersix or anyone else than knows what there doin same shit as the maf cleaner they sell ,alcohaul and brake clean wit a little comp air to dry .never water or qtip as they leave a residue on the elaments and cause bad readings

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/270 "2009-09-07T20:40:33Z")

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> [@94Gt5.0"](#):
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> MAP and BP basically do the same things…
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> I thought you bought a Pro-M for some reasone, didnt know you had a C&L.

I never had one of theirs. My old one was a Granatelli.

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**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/271 "2009-09-07T20:44:15Z")

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> [@88slowmarro"](#):
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> brake clean leaves no residue .ask boxersix or anyone else than knows what there doin same shit as the maf cleaner they sell ,alcohaul and brake clean wit a little comp air to dry .never water or qtip as they leave a residue on the elaments and cause bad readings

Ive always heard the 100% opposite… I havent had a problem with the Q-tip way. They are the harder of the qtips, so it isnt going to fray and leave shit all over the element. A buddy of mine shot his with Brakleen and the sensor never worked again, just goin by past experiences…

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**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/272 "2009-09-07T20:44:48Z")

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> [@Paper says Israel has plans for tactical nuclear strike on Iran](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/paper-says-israel-has-plans-for-tactical-nuclear-strike-on-iran/22672/2):
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> My old one was a Granatelli.

:ahh

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/273 "2009-09-07T20:49:16Z")

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unless he soaked it it wont as it dries completely and no residue if he soaked it then yeah it can or just helped finish a bd one off

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/274 "2009-09-07T20:50:43Z")

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i find it funny that ya gotta get the maf cal to the injectors your runnin .in the gm world ya dont touch the maf at all .in fact most aftermarket will fuck them up more than help ya .esp granatelli

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**Author:** ![1320-20V](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320-20v/32/6474_2.png) [@1320-20V](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320-20V)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/275 "2009-09-07T20:53:57Z")

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This is the proper voltage/flow calibration for a ford mustang MAF sensor. Check your idle output voltage.

[http://www.dainst.com/info/maf/ford\_mustang\_maf.html](http://www.dainst.com/info/maf/ford_mustang_maf.html)

Also note that your MAF is EXTREMELY sensitive to what kind of intake tubing you have in front of it. Generally 3-5 diameters of straight piping is required before and after the maf, unless your maf is specifically tuned for its location.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/276 "2009-09-07T20:55:48Z")

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and to add to that check volt at maf as the comp isnt always correct .i have been bitten by what i see before always test them

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/277 "2009-09-08T01:20:32Z")

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should have just put a carb on it

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/278 "2009-09-08T03:15:03Z")

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> [@FS: CHEAP!!! Nitrous Heater, Purge, RPM Window, FPRS, Fitting, Line and NGK-TR6 Plugs](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-cheap-nitrous-heater-purge-rpm-window-fprs-fitting-line-and-ngk-tr6-plugs/22333/9):
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> This is the proper voltage/flow calibration for a ford mustang MAF sensor. Check your idle output voltage.
> 
> [Ford Mustang MAF sensor specifications](http://www.dainst.com/info/maf/ford_mustang_maf.html)
> 
> Also note that your MAF is EXTREMELY sensitive to what kind of intake tubing you have in front of it. Generally 3-5 diameters of straight piping is required before and after the maf, unless your maf is specifically tuned for its location.
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> Let me know if you have any more questions.

Thanks but that says the voltage is specific to the 55mm stock MAF. Mine is an aftermarket 70 or 75mm (I dont remember). Is there a difference?  
Ive got the same BBK CAI thats been on the car since Ive owned it.

> [@1/6 - The Jumpoff by dj.dstar (Guests from WBNY and NYC!)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1-6-the-jumpoff-by-dj-dstar-guests-from-wbny-and-nyc/21569/27):
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> should have just put a carb on it

Hell no. I hate carbs.

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**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/279 "2009-09-08T05:49:14Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/22669/3):
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> The car shouldnt run good AT ALL without the MAF plugged in. It should idle surge then die typically.

I dunno how mustangs are but any car ive dealt with with a MAF sesnor when the MAF is unplugged the car will run/ilde just fine but will be put in a limp mode and wont rev to high to prevent engine damage from running to lean

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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjb-s-e-bay-build-up/241027/280 "2009-09-08T06:19:35Z")

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I can’t even run without a maf. But PJB, the problem sounds like it’s MAF related, good luck.

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