# PJB's Life Theories: Welfare, piss tests, and abortions...(Split) **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 7, 2013, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431 "2013-03-07T12:14:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/61 "2013-03-08T16:45:27Z")
> [@All this talk about moving, where would you?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/all-this-talk-about-moving-where-would-you/51944/49): > > Fuel to the fire. > > [Just as We Suspected: Florida Saved Nothing by Drug Testing Welfare Applicants | ACLU](http://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law-reform-racial-justice/just-we-suspected-florida-saved-nothing-drug-testing-welfare) > > Spending **more tax payer money** to stop very few people from using government money to help the local economy. Brilliant. > > I’m not completely wrong, you’re not realizing what you’re comparing. It’s not a tax return on a regular salary. It’s a tax return on a money given to you by the government to begin with. > > What PJB is saying is that once you get paid out ~$4,000 by the government for welfare (an amount determined by the amount of kids you have to begin with) and you file the taxes it will give you ~$4000 again as a tax return. Giving you $8000 for the year. > > As the only person truly familiar with taxes here Tracey should be able to verify or deny that claim. rome wasnt built in a day and im willing to bet they did 1 single initial drug test, not weekly drug tests… ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/62 "2013-03-08T16:50:19Z")
> [@Vacation V Pittsburgh PA](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vacation-v-pittsburgh-pa/51939/23): > > rome wasnt built in a day and im willing to bet they did 1 single initial drug test, not weekly drug tests… They did it for 4 months… I love how the same people that argue that gun laws don’t work and criminals have all the ways in the world to avoid following laws and more regulation is stupid, will somehow be caught by the easiest thing in the world to cheat AFTER they already figured out how to cheat and milk the system :rofl ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/63 "2013-03-08T17:29:52Z")
I bet they would find more drug use in Schenectady alone than they supposedly found in Florida ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/64 "2013-03-08T18:41:29Z")
> [@High-waisted pants...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/high-waisted-pants/51941/40): > > I bet they would find more drug use in Schenectady alone than they supposedly found in Florida You just think the whole Schenectady is one big druggie welfare collecting crime ring don’t ya :rofl Sorry to let you know about this, but FL makes NY look good in drug use Anyway PJB is nothing if not consistent :lol > [@n00b from Albany](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/n00b-from-albany/44418/3): > > what handouts am I getting? None I can think of. I work my ass off, pay taxes and havent gotten anything for free. No welfare, medicare, food stamps, etc > [@today's cup-o-fart story](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/todays-cup-o-fart-story/44379/11): > > I think there should be a limit on how long somebody can be on welfare. It shouldnt be a career like it is for some people. > > I also support mandatory abortions for welfare recipients. Cant afford what youve got now, shouldnt be allowed to have more. > [@So you like Water with lemon at dinner?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-you-like-water-with-lemon-at-dinner/43306/37): > > its not like Im a welfare sucking monkey that doesnt work and has no desire to work. I have a job. Yeah, it blows at times but atleast I have a job. > [@I can't believe I'm going to type this, but....I'm completely scotched out](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-cant-believe-im-going-to-type-this-but-im-completely-scotched-out/42914/6): > > Ive got a worthless scumbag great aunt thats like 90 years old and I dont think she ever had a job. She’s been on welfare forever and will probably live forever, even despite her heavy smoking. > > At one point the state made her work in a county nursing home to earn her welfare but that was a long time ago and for some reason the state doesnt do that anymore. > [@Conan](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conan/43153/4): > > Its not like I dont work hard. I really do bust my ass at work and get shit done. > > And Im not like a negro. I actually have a job, Im not on welfare or food stamps, dont have 12 baby mama’s, dont steal, dont own guns and I dont reach for handouts from tax payers. > [@How Many People On Nyspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-people-on-nyspeed/46330/123): > > Travis was there along with several other Shift members. > > Its nice not having the welfare collector drama our local lot has up there and hanging out with good people. > > And then on the way home theres a few 24 hour Walmarts to stop in and see people buying cat food and fishing poles at 2am. > [@Official: NHL Playoff Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nhl-playoff-thread/46500/27): > > And dont get me started on the welfare collectors walking up and down the middle of Central avenue and all over the sidewalks this afternoon. > [@WTBorrow: Car Dolly, two wheel kind.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtborrow-car-dolly-two-wheel-kind/42467/10): > > case in point, I work my ass off for lame pay. Im not a welfare collector. > [@Don't piss off cheerleaders on myspace](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dont-piss-off-cheerleaders-on-myspace/46534/2): > > Im working and making money and paying for Shaniqua and her 12 kids so how am I a drain on the economy when 100% able bodied people are sitting on their asses collecting welfare and driving Escalades with 22" rims? > [@anyone with PS and bored..](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-with-ps-and-bored/48005/6): > > I just dont understand those people sometimes. > > Id love to see a car with a welfare check or foodstamps painted on it since thats actually whats sponsoring their G ride. > [@FS- Entertainment Stand, DVD Player, Laptop case, Speaker truck box](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-entertainment-stand-dvd-player-laptop-case-speaker-truck-box/44690/18): > > Ive got a job so its not like Im some welfare collector living off the system. > [@Anyone in UB's MBA program?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-in-ubs-mba-program/40107/39): > > I fucking hate having what seems like half of my check going to feed Shaniqua and her 17 kids that she keeps popping out just to get more food stamps/wic benefits/welfare so Id rather see my money go somewhere else but I dont think spending tons of money on space and science is the answer. > > Fuck it, send these welfare collectors to Mars and let them explore it. > > And the vietnam vet bum thing is lame too. Seriously theyve had 40 years to get a fucking job and stop begging already. How much more time do they need? Stop using your time in Vietnam as an excuse to beg hard working people for money. > [@OCTOBER SNOW STORM OF 06 ALL SNOW RELATED POSTS GO HERE and ONLY here](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/october-snow-storm-of-06-all-snow-related-posts-go-here-and-only-here/18828/155): > > As much as I dont want to pay for that Id rather pay that than pay some worthless porch monkey to sit around drinking 40’s and smoking crack and knocking up hoes all day with my taxes like Im doing now. ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/65 "2013-03-08T18:43:57Z")
have you been to Schenectady lately? ---
**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SDP)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/66 "2013-03-08T22:19:38Z")
Paul you should really visit florida. its not just beaches and margaritas. Just by what I have seen in person I would rate florida far worse overall than NY as far as drug abusers go. And this doesnt include weed, I mean who really cares about that anyway. ---
**Author:** ![car\_ramrod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/car_ramrod/32/6441_2.png) [@car\_ramrod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/car_ramrod)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/67 "2013-03-09T05:23:21Z")
> [@SDP"](#): > > Paul you should really visit florida. its not just beaches and margaritas. Just by what I have seen in person I would rate florida far worse overall than NY as far as drug abusers go. And this doesnt include weed, I mean who really cares about that anyway. CAN I GET AN AMEN! ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/68 "2013-03-09T11:23:58Z")
I think a large portion of Americas drugs land in Florida anyway :lol Cops have busted a few people i know up here that we’re flying to Miami to drive car loads of coke and heroin back up here. ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/69 "2013-03-09T12:18:22Z")
NYS is a fucking saint compared to Florida in drug abuse… Stats are old but you get the point. And NYS had at this time 2 million more people in population. **FLORIDA 2001 Federal Drug Seizures** **Cocaine:** 7,359.4 kgs. **Heroin:** 633.6 kgs. **Methamphetamine:** 87.0 kgs. **Marijuana:** 30,185.4 kgs. **Clandestine Laboratories:** 33 **NEW YORK** **2001 Federal Drug Seizures** **Cocaine:** 3,861.0 kgs. **Heroin:** 801.5 kgs. **Methamphetamine:** 12.3 kgs. **Marijuana:** 2,658.0 kgs. **Clandestine Laboratories:** 8 ---
**Author:** ![Neo187H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@Neo187H](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neo187H)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/70 "2013-03-09T12:20:22Z")
> [@today i saw...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/today-i-saw/51920/34): > > They did it for 4 months… > > I love how the same people that argue that gun laws don’t work and criminals have all the ways in the world to avoid following laws and more regulation is stupid, will somehow be caught by the easiest thing in the world to cheat AFTER they already figured out how to cheat and milk the system :rofl There are plenty of valid points to take the the Fl. drug testing but it was also severly flawed. The biggest one being that the drug tests were scheduled in advance, with that known it’s incredible anyone failed at all. It takes what, 48-72 hours for hard drugs like heroine to be out of your system to pass a piss test? So basically the system caught hardcore addicts and morons who couldn’t stay clean for a few days, not your average drug user. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/71 "2013-03-09T16:15:35Z")
> [@The last movie you've seen, and rate it.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-last-movie-youve-seen-and-rate-it/27425/928): > > There are plenty of valid points to take the the Fl. drug testing but it was also severly flawed. The biggest one being that the drug tests were scheduled in advance, with that known it’s incredible anyone failed at all. It takes what, 48-72 hours for hard drugs like heroine to be out of your system to pass a piss test? So basically the system caught hardcore addicts and morons who couldn’t stay clean for a few days, not your average drug user. So in other words, the people with no money and kids on welfare are using hard drugs recreationally instead of being addicted? Alright, best case scenario, these “recreational” hard drug users stop doing them when the test becomes random because they really want to abuse the free system and keep getting paid. So the recreational drugs will have to go like they did during scheduled test. So now we have a very expensive system of drug testing in place, wasting even more government money, yielding even less results and people still abusing the free system just now they are doing it “drug free”. Everybody is happy? Once again, brilliant solution. Everybody loves drug free “abusers”. ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/72 "2013-03-10T00:21:06Z")
Not for nuthin you crazy bastards… but if a piss test has an end net cost of $3800+ annually, then we should open Piss518 and go into biz. ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/73 "2013-03-10T00:26:31Z")
I’ll toss is some wacky shit for a moment: I like the forced volunteer work…whatever it may be…raking the woods for all I care. Something. Same goes for jail…all labor…even if they are just stacking blocking, knocking them down and re-stacking. It would create jobs as Im sure some psychosis will come with that. Lets work on the lazy in this country somehow. Shit, even Benny works his ass off ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/74 "2013-03-10T06:07:56Z")
I know they use prisoners to rake leaves at the Saratoga state park. Why not more places? Im sure theyre low level offenders and not murderers and rapists. ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/75 "2013-03-10T10:08:30Z")
> [@The "Oil Prices" thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-oil-prices-thread/44739/871): > > IMO birth control and planned parenthood should not be taxpayer funded in any way shape or form, **the problem with society is a fundamental lack of a sense of responsibility,** but legalizing prostitution would be do-able as long as it could be successfully controlled, unfortunately all these good ideas dont mean shit if people have a strong belief that no matter how much they fuck their life up the government will fix it for them. Are you fucking joking? Look at the name of the organization for fuck’s sake. PLANNED PARENTHOOD. It’s about responsibility and making sure a woman is healthy and it’s not about providing abortions that the rightwingers are describing. My wife would go there when she didn’t have health insurance because they gave her BIRTH CONTROL at low cost and provided yearly exams at a sliding scale. GTFO with your nonsense. Also PJB, a majority of people on welfare are White people, not “monkeys” as you would describe them. Food for though. ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/76 "2013-03-10T10:42:42Z")
white black or green for all the fuck I care Im sick of supporting bottom feeders ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/77 "2013-03-10T12:49:06Z")
> [@Do I apologize?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-i-apologize/51928/74): > > white black or green for all the fuck I care Im sick of supporting bottom feeders Then move somewhere that you think is better where there are little to no bottom feeders…whining about it on Shift will not help the situation. You would have better luck writing your congressman. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/78 "2013-03-10T13:06:47Z")
Ill say this , jellies as far as drugs go there is more drugs in countryish areas than in the cities to a point ! Less places to do shit =drug use from boredom ! As far as the welfare system goes when used appropriately its a good program , when my first son was born my wife was on it for health care and wic cause I couldn’t afford it . When I got to my job now I could so it was a great fill in . I agree a lot of scumbags make a careered from it and its sick . Like the dumb cunt down the rd she has a nicer car , clothes , etc than I do and I see her swiping a food stamp card at Stewart’s gettin red bull and candy bars !!! But pay cash for the smokes and beer . Is the system flaud ? Sure is but it’s not gonna be any better . ---
**Author:** ![NotSl0w](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ab097/32.png) [@NotSl0w](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NotSl0w)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/79 "2013-03-11T13:30:22Z")
i dont see why this hasnt been pointed out previously but there is a solution to the fundamental cost of drug testing to the state/government. the cost is passed along to the “pisser”. if you want handouts you are paying a set fee every month or so to continually piss in a cup and receive benefits. how much do those home drug tests cost? 10-15$ each? ok so that being the case you can actually turn this into a source of revenue. make the person requesting benefits pay $25/ test to cover costs of person administering the test. failure means revocation of benefits and never to be allowed to receive again in the future. in order to continue to receive benefits monthly you must piss monthly…and pay monthly. no out of pocket costs for the remaining tax payers and it gets people off drugs/welfare. dont even get me started on illegal immigrants… oh and BTW if you’re in our fucking country… the language is english. learn to speak it motherfucker or get the fuck out. i shouldnt have to press 1 for spanish, 2 for french, 3 for german, etc you get my point. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pjbs-life-theories-welfare-piss-tests-and-abortions-split/266431/80 "2013-03-11T13:32:21Z")
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