# Planning to buy a brand new cross-over SUV... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 9, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872 "2008-11-09T21:19:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![\_Karu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_karu/32/7602_2.png) [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/1 "2008-11-09T21:19:07Z")
…[Edited]…tomorrow! LOL. (just assume it that way) Look guys, I am really clueless about SUV stuff…so, please lecture me about this topic. Gotta pick one from these models: 1. Honda CR-V ![http://image.trucktrend.com/f/suv-news/honda-cr-v-rates-high-in-non-premium-jd-power-study/6473165+w700+cr1+re0+ar1/honda-cr-v-front-view.jpg](http://image.trucktrend.com/f/suv-news/honda-cr-v-rates-high-in-non-premium-jd-power-study/6473165+w700+cr1+re0+ar1/honda-cr-v-front-view.jpg) 2. Toyota Rav-4 ![http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/izp/toyota_rav4_basei44x2_2008_exterior_angularfront_640x480.jpg](http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/izp/toyota_rav4_basei44x2_2008_exterior_angularfront_640x480.jpg) 3. Nissan Rouge ![http://www.vii.in/cars/Images/Nissan-Rogue/Nissan-Rogue-1.jpg](http://www.vii.in/cars/Images/Nissan-Rogue/Nissan-Rogue-1.jpg) 4. Mazda CX-7 ![http://image.trucktrend.com/f/crossovers/2007-mazda-cx-7-crossover-scores-big-in-safety-tests/6262443+w700+cr1+re0+ar1/2007-mazda-cx-7-front-view.jpg](http://image.trucktrend.com/f/crossovers/2007-mazda-cx-7-crossover-scores-big-in-safety-tests/6262443+w700+cr1+re0+ar1/2007-mazda-cx-7-front-view.jpg) 5. VW Tiguan 6. Hyundai Santa-Fe ![http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/izp/hyundai_santafe_limitedawd_2008_exterior_angularfront_640x480.jpg](http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/izp/hyundai_santafe_limitedawd_2008_exterior_angularfront_640x480.jpg) 7. Subaru Forester ![http://www.autospectator.com/cars/files/images/2009-Subaru-Forester-sideview.jpg](http://www.autospectator.com/cars/files/images/2009-Subaru-Forester-sideview.jpg) 8. Mitsubishi Outlander ![http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/izp/mitsubishi_outlander_xls2wd_2008_exterior_angularfront_640x480.jpg](http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/izp/mitsubishi_outlander_xls2wd_2008_exterior_angularfront_640x480.jpg) Points for discussion: 1. 2WD vs. 4WD 2. Turbo vs. non-Turbo 3. Reliability :roflpicard: 4. Interior, exterior quality 5. 0% financing 6. Value Depreciation 7. Best time to buy brand new car 8. 4 vs. 6 cylinder 9. etc. Discuss. Please. :grouphug: ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/2 "2008-11-09T21:20:29Z")
2 years out? post again in 2 years… kthanx ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/3 "2008-11-09T21:25:46Z")
> [@\_Karu\_"](#): > > …in the next one or two years… > Points for discussion: > > 1. 2WD vs. 4WD **- 4WD. Buffalo winter’s are a pain in the ass without it. Not to mention, when you go to get rid of it…it’s going to be a major turn off with 2WD and because a certain small percentage of people want them…they are worth considerably less on trade in or resale.** > 2. Turbo vs. non-Turbo - **Who the fuck cares? It’s an SUV.** > 3. Reliability :roflpicard: **- If this is even a question, go with Honda or Toyota.** > 4. Interior, exterior quality _-_ **Again, see above.** > 5. 0% financing **- The reason companies are having 0% financing now, is because of the economy/market. Who the fuck knows where its going to be in 2 months, let alone 2 years. Don’t even take this into consideration now.** > 6. Value Depreciation - **Again, Honda or Toyota.** > 7. Best time to buy brand new car **- There is no best time. It will be the best time when you are ready, willing and able to buy a car. Obviously, if there are big rebates or 0% that would also sway a decision to buy earlier. None of this “end of the month” bullshit.** > 8. etc. > Discuss. Please. :grouphug: /thread ---
**Author:** ![\_Karu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_karu/32/7602_2.png) [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/4 "2008-11-09T21:26:51Z")
I may become impatient and decide to buy it tomorrow…so… Doesn’t hurt to discuss. Thanx. ---
**Author:** ![\_Karu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_karu/32/7602_2.png) [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/5 "2008-11-09T21:28:50Z")
^thanks Beck. I read people talking about buying new car around end of January. Some said it’s the best time? ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/6 "2008-11-09T21:29:08Z")
I wouldn’t even worry about it now. Programs, incentives are all going to change. Not to mention, interior’s and body styles, motors, reliability etc etc. For christ’s sake you have an 06-08 Rav pictured. The 09’s look much more agressive, and come with an all new motor (2.7 instead of 2.4). However, if you were buying today, I’d go with a 2008 Rav4. Reliability, MPG, fit and finish, and resale top the charts among small SUV’s. Not to mention, 0% financing. However, the 0% financing is only for 36 months, so unless you can rock a $700/month payment and feel good about it…I’d go for 1.9% or 2.9% for 48/60 month terms. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/7 "2008-11-09T21:30:58Z")
> [@\_Karu\_](#): > > ^thanks Beck. I read people talking about buying new car around end of January. Some said it’s the best time? No. Unless they have left over inventory and the incentive’s are good. As far as buying on a Saturday, as opposed to a Tuesday…there is no validity in that mentality. If you have the need, money, and ability to purchase a car…the dealer will stress urgency any time of the month. Believe me, I’ve been slinging Toyota’s for a while now. ---
**Author:** ![\_Karu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_karu/32/7602_2.png) [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/8 "2008-11-09T21:32:09Z")
Edited the thread. let’s just assume I want to buy it tomorrow. Easier this way. Anything on Mazda cx-7? I am interested, but, unsure about the turbo crap. Some reviewers talking about turbo lag? Crappy MPG every time you b00st the car? lmao. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/9 "2008-11-09T21:39:57Z")
> [@\_Karu\_"](#): > > …[Edited]…tomorrow! LOL. > > Gotta pick one from these models: > > 1. Honda CR-V - **Good choice, great resale, reliability.** > > 2. Toyota Rav-4 - **0%, reliability is TOP NOTCH, resale is a percentage point or two higher than Honda. Awesome MPG’s.** > > 3. Nissan Rouge - **Reliability is there, resale however is good…but not as high as a Honda/Toyota.** > > 4. Mazda CX-7 - **It’s a Ford, and resale value is meh.** > > 5. VW Tiguan - **LOL, really? I understand the interior fit and finish is nice, you’re going to pay a little bit more (more-so than the others) and reliability past warranty is tipsy** > > 6. Hyundai Santa-Fe **- 100,000 mile warranty is nice, but you’ll probably need it. Resale is GARBAGE.** > > 7. Subaru Forester - **Fuji Heavy Industries produce Subaru’s. Toyota own’s part of FHI. I can’t say anything bad about Subaru, but this is kind of the “black sheep” of the bunch.** > > 8. Mitsubishi Outlander - **The Chrysler’s of Japan.** 😉 ---
**Author:** ![\_Karu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_karu/32/7602_2.png) [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/10 "2008-11-09T21:45:14Z")
🙂 that’s the kind of stuff I want to hear…thanks! Any other XYZ model out there (same class)? ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/11 "2008-11-09T21:48:22Z")
> [@\_Karu\_](#): > > 🙂 that’s the kind of stuff I want to hear…thanks! > > Any other XYZ model out there (same class)? Nothing worth looking at. Escape, Commander/Patriot, Sportage, meh. ---
**Author:** ![Slopoke](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slopoke/32/7248_2.png) [@Slopoke](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slopoke)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/12 "2008-11-09T22:42:07Z")
I sell mazda’s and will tell you that CX-7’s are over priced, shitty mpg and you are supposed to use premium. Its an suv wtf!! I also sell Hyundai and can tell you that right now we have $3000 rebate AND 0%!!! And you know damn well i will get you invoice! The Hyundai’s came along way and i really stand behind em… Look up there recent reviews, they are right along side with toyota/honda with alot smaller price tag. As far as awd, meh i dont think its necessary… now days with stability control, traction control, abs…Fwd is fine IMO… ---
**Author:** ![Slopoke](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slopoke/32/7248_2.png) [@Slopoke](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slopoke)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/13 "2008-11-09T22:45:43Z")
also i agree with beck on almost everything in his comments about each model, except the ROGUE. Go drive one its the biggest pos out right now! They just drive very cheaply and tin can-ish. Now the Murano is very nice but at $40k it should be! And the cvt tranny in the rogue/sentra is garbage. When i sold Nissan’s in Atlanta we had so many issues with Nissan’s new cvt technology it was aggravating! ---
**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/14 "2008-11-10T04:22:36Z")
Forester. ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/15 "2008-11-10T05:11:12Z")
What about the RDX ? ---
**Author:** ![nelstoys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/48db29/32.png) [@nelstoys](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelstoys)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/16 "2008-11-10T05:28:19Z")
I love the Vw, the 2.0 does wonders, good on gas and with 4 motion handels great. ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/17 "2008-11-10T05:32:34Z")
X2 If I had to pick on it would be the VW, def not the cheapest but it would be a nice pickup for sure ---
**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/18 "2008-11-10T06:16:56Z")
if i had to pick one, i’d pick the tiguan, but i think crossover SUV’s are kind of stupid. If you are getting one, do not buy a 2wd suv. get 4wd around here. no one will want it when you sell it or trade it in. ---
**Author:** ![\_Karu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_karu/32/7602_2.png) [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/19 "2008-11-10T06:25:06Z")
interesting comments and opinions, thanks guys. Yeah, I read negative review about Nissan Rouge’s CVT tranny. My brother is also against buying Nissan because of their’s POS tranny. Now that you guys talked about 4WD, I am unsure about getting 2WD. For a thousand more, it seems to be a better investment in a long run. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/20 "2008-11-10T06:38:48Z")
I liked the Rogue’s when I valeted them last year. Not to sure about specs but everyone I talked to liked them. Also, a co-worker has the Santa-Fe and he loves it too. IMO its really nice inside for a cheaper car. Again, no idea on specs of it tho. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872.md?page=2)