# Planning to buy a brand new cross-over SUV... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 9, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872 "2008-11-09T21:19:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/41 "2008-11-10T14:53:50Z")
> [@\_Karu\_](#): > > VW probably ended up being the most expensive though? No, the limited rav 4 starts at around $31K…v6 awd. and it doesn’t even come with leather. The SEL tiguan starts at $31K I-4 turbo awd and comes with leather. ---
**Author:** ![Slopoke](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slopoke/32/7248_2.png) [@Slopoke](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slopoke)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/42 "2008-11-10T14:57:44Z")
holy shit! ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/43 "2008-11-10T18:27:16Z")
Oh yeah the CX-7 has the auto/manual tranny thing too. It sucks. Shifts tooo slow. I just leave it in auto all the time. ---
**Author:** ![layzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/layzie/32/7599_2.png) [@layzie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/layzie)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/44 "2008-11-10T18:30:55Z")
the vw looks the best and probably the most luxo imo, but reliablity honda or toyota ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/45 "2008-11-10T19:00:04Z")
To set the record straight, the V6 Rav4 is the fastest Toyota made. :snky: There is NO reason to go with a V6 over a 4 cylinder, unless you are planning on towing something \> 2,000 pounds. You are going to spend an additional $2000+ for the V6 option, and its going to be worth not a dime more in 2 years, 5 years or 10 years for the same reason that a 2wd is worth considerably less. There is no market for V6 Rav4’s. The new 2.7L 4 Cylinder that is coming in the 09 Rav’s has a bit more power and better gas mileage than the 2.4L numbers. All Rav’s have an electronically engaged rear lock up until 25 mph, then it automatically disengages. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/46 "2008-11-10T19:06:42Z")
Keep in mind, safety features… The Rav4 comes with STANDARD: 4 wheel disc brakes ABS EBD - Electronic Brake-Force Distribution Vehicle Stability Control Traction Control Brake Assist Dual Front, Dual Stage front seat passenger airbags (passenger seat is weight sensitive) Active Headrests side curtain airbags front driver and passenger seat mounted side airbags breakaway engine mounts a ton of crumple zones daytime running lights 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/47 "2008-11-10T19:09:53Z")
And it looks 100x’s better in 2009: ![http://www.autospectator.com/cars/files/images/2009-Toyota-RAV4-Sport.jpg](http://www.autospectator.com/cars/files/images/2009-Toyota-RAV4-Sport.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/48 "2008-11-10T19:22:06Z")
what…is with the fender flares? ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/49 "2008-11-10T19:27:31Z")
> [@RedGoober4Life](#): > > what…is with the fender flares? Rav Sport. :roflpicard: ---
**Author:** ![vt1992s10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/73ab20/32.png) [@vt1992s10](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vt1992s10)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/50 "2008-11-10T19:31:42Z")
Forester XT 🙂 I am driving my mom’s 03 forester XS auto which is top to the line for that year, I get about 25-30mpg. Her Subaru has 110,000 and the only thing she/we have done to it is general maintance (timing belt, brakes, etc). I was looking for another subaru (forster, legacy, WRX) mainly the forester but then brent’s jeep popped up for sale. ---
**Author:** ![Rovert](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rovert/32/7478_2.png) [@Rovert](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rovert)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/51 "2008-11-10T20:23:02Z")
id hit up the VW. no suprize there ---
**Author:** ![\_Karu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_karu/32/7602_2.png) [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/52 "2008-11-10T20:35:26Z")
interesting. interesting. interesting. I saw Subaru Forester ad today (TV). Looks pretty interesting. However, I am not really loving the hatchback-look though (back side). I like CR-V/Rav4/Rouge’s rear curve better. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/53 "2008-11-11T04:09:26Z")
> [@Jeller](#): > > Forester. XT ---
**Author:** ![slasky](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slasky/32/7408_2.png) [@slasky](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slasky)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/54 "2008-11-11T05:55:36Z")
My brother was looking for a crossover last summer he ended up with the CR-v. He is very happy with it and I was impressed with it as well. You can’t beat Honda reliability. I would stay away from anything turbo. VW quality is down the toilet so unless you were doing a short lease I would stay away from them. Subaru puts out a good product but repairs tend to be more expensive than other cars. How long are you planning on driving it? Do you get a new car every few years or do you drive them into the ground? As far as 2wd vs 4wd, my wife’s vue is 2wd. It does not handle well with all seasons on it in the snow. I put snow tires on it and I would say it would keep up with a 4wd with all seasons in the snow. Remember these are all still FWD without the AWD. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/55 "2008-11-11T06:04:06Z")
Don’t get a 2wd SUV. You might as well just buy a car. It would have the same snow capability but better handling and probably better resale. The Honda/Toyota/Hyundai/Subaru should all be pretty reliable. I’d include the Nissan if it weren’t for the QR25 powerplant. :tdown: I’d drive all 4, see what you like and what the finances and offers look like, and then decide. The Forester is more of a lifted wagon than an SUV. You might like it better because it’ll be a bit less top heavy, or you might not like it because it’s not as roomy as the others. ---
**Author:** ![\_Karu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_karu/32/7602_2.png) [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/56 "2008-11-11T07:40:35Z")
^thanks, guys for your inputs! I am glad that I discussed this with you guys. I was pretty all set on getting a 2WD, but now it seems that 4WD is a better buy. ---
**Author:** ![slasky](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slasky/32/7408_2.png) [@slasky](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slasky)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/57 "2008-11-11T10:52:03Z")
> [@\_Karu\_](#): > > ^thanks, guys for your inputs! > > I am glad that I discussed this with you guys. I was pretty all set on getting a 2WD, but now it seems that 4WD is a better buy. I disagree. First of all I don’t think any of the cars you listed have 4wd; they have awd. Unless you are planning on off roading, which none of these vehicles are good for, snow tires on a fwd are just fine. Awd also has more parts to break. I have snows on my srt and wife’s vue and have never even remotely come close to getting stuck. I even pass 4wd trucks in the snow with my srt. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/58 "2008-11-11T11:16:58Z")
And I could get a good look at a steak by sticking my head up a cows ass, but I’d rather have 4wd/awd in the snow with all other things equal. Wait, what? Yeah 2WD is fine, but 2 more WD is even better. ---
**Author:** ![\_Karu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_karu/32/7602_2.png) [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/59 "2008-11-11T12:47:42Z")
wait… What? AWD == 4WD ? AWD != 4WD ? Clarify, please. ---
**Author:** ![\_Karu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_karu/32/7602_2.png) [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872/60 "2008-11-11T12:48:45Z")
> [@slasky](#): > > I disagree. First of all I don’t think any of the cars you listed have 4wd; they have awd. Unless you are planning on off roading, which none of these vehicles are good for, snow tires on a fwd are just fine. Awd also has more parts to break. > I have snows on my srt and wife’s vue and have never even remotely come close to getting stuck. I even pass 4wd trucks in the snow with my srt. How about resale value? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/planning-to-buy-a-brand-new-cross-over-suv/57872.md?page=4)