# Plastic Gun?

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [March 11, 2008, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816 "2008-03-11T11:15:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/1 "2008-03-11T11:15:45Z")

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I was just wondering why a plastic gun has not yet been made. I mean if you think about it, with the technology in plastics and carbon fiber, its surprising that nobody has made a pistol that can contain almost no metal. I know the government has a 83% metal content rule by weight about guns. But what is stopping terrorists from creating plastic 1 time use pistols?

edit… it came up on a discussion at work due to that movie with Kevin Costener being on TV over the weekend

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**Author:** ![dirtye30](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dirtye30/32/7333_2.png) [@dirtye30](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dirtye30)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/2 "2008-03-11T11:18:24Z")

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uhh they have…

theres polycarbonate glocks

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/3 "2008-03-11T11:19:48Z")

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> [@dirtye30](#):
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> uhh they have…
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> theres polycarbonate glocks

wrd i was gonna say glocks are plastic… can fire underwater/after being burried in sand ect

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/4 "2008-03-11T11:20:05Z")

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dude. you might do less work than me over there

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/5 "2008-03-11T11:20:56Z")

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They have the only parts that are metal in an autoloading pistol are the springs, firing pin and barrel.

Glock Made a Gun completely out of porcelin.

Flare guns are plastic…

One Time use pistols arent worth the R&D when they can get 10 Ak’s for the cost of one of these.

Its not lucrative for anyone to make one.

The glocks lower frame is polymer. the slide and internals are all metal.

H&K G36 is all polymer body to make it lighter, again the internals are metal.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/6 "2008-03-11T11:24:32Z")

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That fact that most manufacturers sell most guns in the USA. The government controls what guns are legal. In order for these companies to make money they need to create guns they can sell. If you can’t buy the gun here, they won’t sell many. It is simple business. I’d imagine Colt isn’t going to sell very many $800 plastic pistols over seas to terrorists, when they can just go buy a AK-47 for $47 and a donkey.

Exp: Why don’t more companies sell cars without airbags to make them cheaper and lighter? They can’t…

I could however see china making a cheap plastic gun in the future. They are the new Russia to me.

Edit: You guys beat me to it. Its all about the $$$.

But in theory it can be done.

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/7 "2008-03-11T11:26:24Z")

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the glocks and all other commercially available guns still have to contain 83% of their weight in metal to be a legally available firearm…

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/8 "2008-03-11T11:28:21Z")

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> [@The\_Russian](#):
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> They have the only parts that are metal in an autoloading pistol are the springs, firing pin and barrel.
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> Glock Made a Gun completely out of porcelin.
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> Flare guns are plastic…
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> One Time use pistols arent worth the R&D when they can get 10 Ak’s for the cost of one of these.
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> Its not lucrative for anyone to make one.
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> The glocks lower frame is polymer. the slide and internals are all metal.
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> H&K G36 is all polymer body to make it lighter, again the internals are metal.

untrue…

from glockfaq:

Where can I get a porcelain or **ceramic**  **Glock** , you know, the **Glock** 7?  
There is no such thing as a porcelain or **ceramic**  **Glock**. All Glocks are made from polymer and steel and always have been. This rumor got started (or maybe fueled) by a line from Bruce Willis in the movie ‘Die Hard 2: Die Harder’:

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/9 "2008-03-11T11:29:13Z")

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find me a plastic that can used as a barrel that wont fail instantly and explode in your hands.

Yes im aware of the movie that it was used in.

It was made as a prototype in the early 90’s to prove that they could, it never went to production because in testing it the frame kept shattering from the force of the the recoil.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/10 "2008-03-11T11:29:59Z")

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:word: The barrel can’t be made of plastic and still be worth a damn.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/11 "2008-03-11T11:30:09Z")

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> [@Viper966"](#):
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> I was just wondering why a plastic gun has not yet been made.

> [@Viper966](#):
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> the glocks and all other commercially available guns still have to contain 83% of their weight in metal to be a legally available firearm…

pretty self explanatory

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/12 "2008-03-11T11:33:06Z")

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Smith and Wesson made a lightweight revolver out of Titanium, The chamber sleeves and barrel had to be made out of steel becuase Titanium was too soft. and would flex from the force and heat from the .38 special

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/13 "2008-03-11T11:35:28Z")

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> [@The\_Russian](#):
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> find me a plastic that can used as a barrel that wont fail instantly and explode in your hands.
> 
> Yes im aware of the movie that it was used in.
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> It was made as a prototype in the early 90’s to prove that they could, it never went to production because in testing it the frame kept shattering from the force of the the recoil.

there are a lot of plastics/CF products that could withstand 1 or 2 bullet firings especially if encased in a sleeve of plastic… but ive never tried to engineer anything like that…

i never said it had to be a reloadable weapon, but a 1 or 2 shot weapon… seems more plausable…

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/14 "2008-03-11T11:37:13Z")

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> [@Viper966](#):
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> there are a lot of plastics/CF products that could withstand 1 or 2 bullet firings especially if encased in a sleeve of plastic… but ive never tried to engineer anything like that…
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> i never said it had to be a reloadable weapon, but a 1 or 2 shot weapon… seems more plausable…

Viper = terrorist

IBfbi

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/15 "2008-03-11T11:38:27Z")

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your better off just using a fking derringer.

I don’t think you understand the force that a round has.

A plastic barreled .22 you might be able to get away with, its not going to rifle at all, or have any accuracy and STILL would probably explode in your hand.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/16 "2008-03-11T12:09:46Z")

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I could see some sort of ceramic holding up for a few rounds. I am by no means a material expert, but I imagine there is something strong enough out there.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/17 "2008-03-11T12:12:42Z")

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> [@Viper966](#):
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> there are a lot of plastics/CF products that could withstand 1 or 2 bullet firings especially if encased in a sleeve of plastic… but ive never tried to engineer anything like that…
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> i never said it had to be a reloadable weapon, but a 1 or 2 shot weapon… seems more plausable…

What are you going to do with 1-2 shots from a small caliber weapon?

You’re obviously not going to be taking over a plane anymore…everyone already knows that outcome and will do whatever to stop it.

Remember the movie In the line of fire…plastic gun was used to try and kill the president

> **[In the Line of Fire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Line_of_Fire)**
>
> In the Line of Fire is a 1993 American political action thriller film directed by Wolfgang Petersen and starring Clint Eastwood, John Malkovich and Rene Russo. Written by Jeff Maguire, the film is about a disillusioned and obsessed former CIA agent who attempts to assassinate the President of the United States and the Secret Service agent who tracks him. Eastwood's character is the sole active-duty Secret Service agent who is still remaining from the detail that had guarded John F. Kennedy in In...

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/18 "2008-03-11T12:18:52Z")

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Next were gonna start talking about magic bullets that disapear after you hit somebody with it.

OR PLASTIC bullets, Which were used, Research Blue-tips, they were used in Somalia. Mind you those were just the bullets themselves.

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/19 "2008-03-11T12:20:06Z")

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> [@FormulaLS1](#):
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> What are you going to do with 1-2 shots from a small caliber weapon?
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> You’re obviously not going to be taking over a plane anymore…everyone already knows that outcome and will do whatever to stop it.
> 
> Remember the movie In the line of fire…plastic gun was used to try and kill the president
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> [In the Line of Fire - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Line_of_Fire)

thats the movie we were talking about here, and brought up this post…

looks like a wiimote

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/plastic-gun/44816/20 "2008-03-11T12:22:06Z")

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Movie does not = Real Life.

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