# Please Help Me!!!

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [August 31, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336 "2008-08-31T19:07:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![1badx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1badx/32/6052_2.png) [@1badx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1badx)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/61 "2008-09-05T09:57:44Z")

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> [@SOLD: Jeep Cherokee RE 3.5" Lift](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-jeep-cherokee-re-3-5-lift/37712/2):
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> First…

I thought you weren’t going to say anything? See what happens when you give sound advice?

I have to agree with Jason, The OP added a “slightly thicker” head gasket, not a head spacer and two gaskets. Something else is going on here…

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**Author:** ![Hycomp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Hycomp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hycomp)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/62 "2008-09-05T10:08:21Z")

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> [@Use your Xbox 360 to Fight for Liberation!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-your-xbox-360-to-fight-for-liberation/36078/78):
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> I thought you weren’t going to say anything? See what happens when you give sound advice?
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> I have to agree with Jason, The OP added a “slightly thicker” head gasket, not a head spacer and two gaskets. Something else is going on here…

Exactly. At most the cams are around a degree off which would not cause the problems described.

> [@FS or trade 1994 nissan altima (900 bucks takes this)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-or-trade-1994-nissan-altima-900-bucks-takes-this/33850/38):
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> my gsr is running like shit. super overloaded with fuel. any ideas??

Is it definitely dumping tons of fuel? Raw fuel coming out the exhaust? At idle? Higher RPMS?

Did you:

> [@How over priced is this?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-over-priced-is-this/37675/44):
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> check to make sure your vacuum line to your FPR is connected as well as check to make sure your map sensor is also properly installed. Having vacuum leaks at either one of those would cause your car to run richer than it should at all but WOT.

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**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/63 "2008-09-05T11:30:43Z")

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> [@rickoner"](#):
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> so your telling me that changing the cam profile (which is exactly what happens) will not affect a tune in anyway? that makes no sense at all. if your theory was true, you could slap any type of cam in a stock engine and it’ll run like it was designed without any tuning? BS. the cams are out of time and now fuel is dumping out of the exhaust. imagine that. chris double check the compression and do a leak down test. when that’s confirmerd good, pick up some cam gears. (and studs) or what i would have done n the first place, a stock gasket and studs. good luck buddy.

Thats exactly what im telling you. I’ve been doing this for a good while now, been there, seen that. Now, im not saying that changing your compression ratio and cam profiles isn’t going to need tuned. It indeed will need fine tuned for optimal power. Though, the car will still run like its previous setup.

… in the mean time, i’ll wait to see what chris has to say.

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**Author:** ![1badx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1badx/32/6052_2.png) [@1badx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1badx)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/64 "2008-09-05T11:37:03Z")

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:stick:

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**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/65 "2008-09-05T13:40:14Z")

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> [@SOLD: Jeep Cherokee RE 3.5" Lift](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-jeep-cherokee-re-3-5-lift/37712/2):
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> First, adding a thick hg wont change a thing. I’ve done a bunch and the motors start back up identical to how they were before. Hopefully it was installed correctly… out of curiosity, was it copper sprayed?
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> Is it running rich, or is it just running rough? There is a difference. Also, what ecu are you running? Chipped I assume? Do you know what circuits are turned off (if chipped) that may not bring a Check Engine Light up?
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> Hondas are rarely mystery machines. Most problems are straight forward when all precautionary checks come out positive…
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> So, check timing. crank it till the cam gear marks stand up, then line the crank up with TDC (not the firing marks). If its in time, check compression for the heck of it since you changed the hg, then report.

Do you think that the copper spray acually does anything? I am not being a dick I just dont know about the copper spray…

do a compression test damnit and lemme know some numbers

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**Author:** ![06F4i](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/e99b99/32.png) [@06F4i](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/06F4i)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/66 "2008-09-05T13:45:46Z")

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sounds to me like toby just did what you asked and you didnt think things out properly or just magnified other previous problems, i know hes not one to just slap shit together

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**Author:** ![slamedcivic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@slamedcivic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slamedcivic)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/67 "2008-09-05T13:47:49Z")

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I know how to solve your problem… $40 put it in the auto trader…

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**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/68 "2008-09-05T13:48:30Z")

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Who is this toby guy. he must know his shit. anyone have his number? i need some work done!

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**Author:** ![slamedcivic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@slamedcivic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slamedcivic)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/69 "2008-09-05T14:19:42Z")

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🤣🤣I know how to solve your problem… $40 put it in the auto trader…

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**Author:** ![94gsr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/47e85d/32.png) [@94gsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94gsr)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/70 "2008-09-05T15:31:25Z")

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> [@FS:1999 Yamaha Banshee](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1999-yamaha-banshee/35150/59):
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> sounds to me like toby just did what you asked and you didnt think things out properly or just magnified other previous problems, i know hes not one to just slap shit together

i am not saying toby messed anything up. i am just wounderin if anyone else had this prob and could help me figure it out. at idle it smokes black. if i get . on it its really black. runs kind of rough to. i unpluged the map senser and it seemed to idle alot better.

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**Author:** ![06F4i](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/e99b99/32.png) [@06F4i](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/06F4i)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/71 "2008-09-05T15:37:30Z")

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map and tps share same type of plugs maybe there mixed up

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**Author:** ![Converted2LSX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/converted2lsx/32/5962_2.png) [@Converted2LSX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Converted2LSX)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/72 "2008-09-05T15:38:45Z")

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> [@Use your Xbox 360 to Fight for Liberation!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-your-xbox-360-to-fight-for-liberation/36078/79):
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> map and tps share same type of plugs maybe there mixed up

came in here to post that

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**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/73 "2008-09-05T15:40:37Z")

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> [@Anyone Banned?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-banned/37718/22):
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> Do you think that the copper spray acually does anything? I am not being a dick I just dont know about the copper spray…
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> do a compression test damnit and lemme know some numbers

Yes. I recommend and use it with MLS gaskets if you aren’t having the block and head decked. It just helped to seal any small, small imperfections in the surface. I’ve ran and built several cars using MLS gaskets with copper spray and no decking, and they’ve all ran great/produced great compression numbers.

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**Author:** ![Heart4Audio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d9b06d/32.png) [@Heart4Audio](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Heart4Audio)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/74 "2008-09-05T16:04:27Z")

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I hope you get this figured out soon.

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**Author:** ![xfrankx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/2bfe46/32.png) [@xfrankx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xfrankx)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/75 "2008-09-05T21:01:37Z")

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joe will you just tune his car so we can kill this thread

we can get it sorted this weekend and make some cash. chris has my old kit from my car and its been a year i wanna see it run

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/76 "2008-09-05T21:06:46Z")

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![http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/avatar1868_26.gif](http://www.pittspeed.com/uploaded/avatar1868_26.gif)

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**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/77 "2008-09-06T09:16:58Z")

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> [@Use your Xbox 360 to Fight for Liberation!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-your-xbox-360-to-fight-for-liberation/36078/79):
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> map and tps share same type of plugs maybe there mixed up

yet there is no cel? hm… unless there is a cel and we havent established that yet…

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**Author:** ![06F4i](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/e99b99/32.png) [@06F4i](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/06F4i)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/78 "2008-09-06T11:33:59Z")

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im guessing not since he said he unplugged the map and it ran better and didnt mention a cel

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**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/79 "2008-09-06T13:38:00Z")

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> [@10/28/07 - My Bubble Tea - 8 PM](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-28-07-my-bubble-tea-8-pm/37633/35):
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> joe will you just tune his car so we can kill this thread
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> we can get it sorted this weekend and make some cash. chris has my old kit from my car and its been a year i wanna see it run

frank I can tune a vtec motor with a compter that doesent have vtec!!

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**Author:** ![xfrankx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/2bfe46/32.png) [@xfrankx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xfrankx)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2008, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-help-me/199336/80 "2008-09-07T13:04:41Z")

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> [@Awesome jams from the mid-late 90s](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/awesome-jams-from-the-mid-late-90s/36102/79):
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> frank I can tune a vtec motor with a compter that doesent have vtec!!

he has a socketed gsr computer just needs chipped and tuned!

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