# Please support NYSORVA and sign this petition.
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-support-nysorva-and-sign-this-petition/253144
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [July 6, 2010, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-support-nysorva-and-sign-this-petition/253144 "2010-07-06T09:30:24Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-support-nysorva-and-sign-this-petition/253144/21 "2010-07-07T13:56:13Z")
1.
And this will never happen.
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-support-nysorva-and-sign-this-petition/253144/22 "2010-07-07T13:58:46Z")
> [@Hiring: IT Helpdesk](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hiring-it-helpdesk/33333/37):
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> 1.
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> And this will never happen.
now your thinking positive!
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### Author:  [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-support-nysorva-and-sign-this-petition/253144/23 "2010-07-07T14:00:02Z")
4102 :rofl
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### Author:  [@mcflurry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mcflurry)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-support-nysorva-and-sign-this-petition/253144/24 "2010-07-07T14:03:00Z")
> [@If you could have one car back...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-could-have-one-car-back/33353/28):
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> :lol ummm yeah I think they need your real first and last name to make it count. lol
rofl i dont think the name matters ill sign it in like 6 diff names!!! :ahh
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### Author:  [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-support-nysorva-and-sign-this-petition/253144/25 "2010-07-07T19:19:29Z")
> [@How dumb can people be?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-dumb-can-people-be/33358/3):
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> Wat? We are asking for legal trails to ride, not opening the flood gates for redneck yahoos to legally rip down the sholders of NYS roads past houses and piss people off.
That sounds a little like me.
Anyway is trail 9 (thats what Ive heard it called) in Lake Desolation legal for quads? Ive heard it was and Ive ridden it once but other people say its not legal but one of those people used to take a truck on it anyway.
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### Author:  [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-support-nysorva-and-sign-this-petition/253144/26 "2010-07-07T23:06:45Z")
4106
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### Author:  [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-support-nysorva-and-sign-this-petition/253144/27 "2010-07-08T13:48:59Z")
to each their own. everyone likes their own kind of fun. right now though, its not looking good, petition or not. i doubt theyre going to pay for special grounds for that to happen around here. not enough cash to even keep all the parks open all the time and a LOT more ppl use parks than ride atv’s.
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### Author:  [@skiboard06](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skiboard06)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-support-nysorva-and-sign-this-petition/253144/28 "2010-07-08T16:02:34Z")
> [@Anyone want to goto Family Values?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-goto-family-values/33335/9):
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> to each their own. everyone likes their own kind of fun. right now though, its not looking good, petition or not. i doubt theyre going to pay for special grounds for that to happen around here. not enough cash to even keep all the parks open all the time and a LOT more ppl use parks than ride atv’s.
this, again
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2010, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-support-nysorva-and-sign-this-petition/253144/29 "2010-07-09T05:50:59Z")
> [@Anyone want to goto Family Values?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-want-to-goto-family-values/33335/9):
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> to each their own. everyone likes their own kind of fun. right now though, its not looking good, petition or not. i doubt theyre going to pay for special grounds for that to happen around here. not enough cash to even keep all the parks open all the time and a LOT more ppl use parks than ride atv’s.
But whats your missing is there are already state trails mapped out and accessable for snowmobiles. All NYS would have to do is send a parks police around and unlock the gates. If they wanted to pay police to patrol the trails and write tickets for exhaust and unreg/insured thats more money for them too. NYS already owns MANY 4x4 ATVS, equipt with lights and radios (My last job we worked on those machines). Tug hill was ATV friendly 2 years ago for half a season, then NYS put a stop to it once again. The closed alot of the trails that started out letting atvs on, then said nope, and left liek 1-3 trails open and said thats what you get have fun.
Its not like we are asking NYS to get the dozer out and make some new trails. its far from that. All we want is the ability to ride on NYS land, NOT on camp grounds, hiking trails, etc where public people are. AND the ability to cross state land (Ie roads and fields) to get from PRIVATE PROPERTY TO PRIVATE PROPERTY. We got nails MANY times by encon for doing just that, and we had to fight our way out of it, and prove that we have the land owners permission to ride where we were coming from and to.
Its just getting to the point that private owners cant host clubs and riding areas anymore. NYS breathing down their necks, property owners around the land starting shit becasue they know NYS will back them. Soggy Bottom ATV club shut down last year becasue of this. And they owned ALL the land they were riding on.
EDIT here is the link to their site/club. [http://www.soggybottomriders.com/index.html](http://www.soggybottomriders.com/index.html)
Supporting information: [http://www.ptny.org/pdfs/greenways/HTHP/dolgevile\_report.pdf](http://www.ptny.org/pdfs/greenways/HTHP/dolgevile_report.pdf)
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### Author:  [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2010, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/please-support-nysorva-and-sign-this-petition/253144/30 "2010-07-09T05:56:00Z")
> [@Hiring: IT Helpdesk](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hiring-it-helpdesk/33333/22):
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> Yeah NYS has tons of money laying around to blow on bullshit that 90% of the population finds obnoxious and 100% of lawyers find as goldmines.
DING DING DING.
Get ATV ride it through the woods. Ride faster in the opposite direction when you see people with guns
Why do i need to pay for people to do that?
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