# Points Reduction Class - where to go?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [February 26, 2009, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647 "2009-02-26T06:22:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/1 "2009-02-26T06:22:17Z")

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Where is a good place to go for a points reduction class in Buffalo? Anyone have the hookup?

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**Author:** ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/2 "2009-02-26T06:29:21Z")

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i think carubba collision does a class on weekends. i took it a few years back.

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**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/3 "2009-02-26T06:31:38Z")

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i heard if you have triple digits points you can’t take the class :gotme:

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**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/4 "2009-02-26T06:32:33Z")

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Shut your mouth - I don’t have triple digits…yet…

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/5 "2009-02-26T07:29:27Z")

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There was a sponsor back on ubrf that did point classes but I can’t remember the name. I bet someone will.

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**Author:** ![98SS10](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/98ss10/32/7288_2.png) [@98SS10](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/98SS10)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/6 "2009-02-26T13:31:45Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> There was a sponsor back on ubrf that did point classes but I can’t remember the name. I bet someone will.

That was Stevens driving school, had a friend that used to work there.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/7 "2009-02-26T13:35:26Z")

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^ [http://www.stevensdrivingschool.com/](http://www.stevensdrivingschool.com/)

Yep, that was the one. I remember the craptastic site.

The guy seemed pretty cool from the few posts he made.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/8 "2009-02-26T13:37:49Z")

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you cannot reduce points by taking a class… all it does is increase the number you’re allowed to get before they suspend you. you can take the class to get a reduction on insurance.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/9 "2009-02-26T13:44:18Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> you cannot reduce points by taking a class… all it does is increase the number you’re allowed to get before they suspend you. you can take the class to get a reduction on insurance.

I didn’t think that was how it worked but you’re right.

> Q. After I complete the PIRP course, how do I receive the point reduction?

> A. The PIRP sponsor will notify the DMV within ten weeks after you complete the course. A notice will then be entered on your driving record, and the DMV computer will automatically reduce your active point total by up to four points. **Important: Completion of a course under the “Point & Insurance Reduction Program” does not remove, delete, subtract, or erase any violation, conviction, or notice of original number of points from your driving record.** Even after you complete the course, most violations, conviction and points assessed will continue to show on your driving record for up to four years. Violations and convictions involving drugs or alcohol will remain on your driving record for ten years. “Point reduction” means the DMV will not count up to four points on your driving record toward license revocation or suspension.

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[http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/broch/c32a.htm](http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/broch/c32a.htm)

In the OP’s case I think he’s fine since I believe he’s just trying to avoid losing his license.

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**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/10 "2009-02-26T17:37:17Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> In the OP’s case I think he’s fine since I believe he’s just trying to avoid losing his license.

:snky:

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**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/11 "2009-02-26T17:52:43Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> you cannot reduce points by taking a class… all it does is increase the number you’re allowed to get before they suspend you. you can take the class to get a reduction on insurance.

Where’s your basis for this? It removes up to 4 points and sometimes 15% on insurance. IIRC it’s 11 points before you lose your license.

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**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/12 "2009-02-26T17:54:02Z")

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His basis could be the quoted section of the DMV website located 2 posts above yours.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/13 "2009-02-26T18:15:33Z")

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> [@khoveraki](#):
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> Where’s your basis for this? It removes up to 4 points and sometimes 15% on insurance. IIRC it’s 11 points before you lose your license.

:picard:

Holy fucking picard. It’s not like this is a 4 page thread and the answer was buried.

:picard:

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/14 "2009-02-26T18:18:24Z")

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i got a traffic violation worth 2pts or something silly, they told me to plead not guilty and take the class… so they lied? wat? lol…

they also told me that i could choose to just plead guilty and then take the class at a later time to get the pts taken off

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**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/15 "2009-02-26T18:19:23Z")

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they lied.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/16 "2009-02-26T18:20:58Z")

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what a stupid whore, she also signed me up for class at ecc north instead of south :banghead:

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**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/17 "2009-02-26T18:45:04Z")

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> A. The PIRP sponsor will notify the DMV within ten weeks after you complete the course. A notice will then be entered on your driving record, and the DMV computer will automatically reduce your active point total by up to four points.

Called my driver’s ed instructor, he said it reduces it by 4 points if you have that many on your license. It’s just fine print so the DMV can still send you driver assessment penalty fines. You effectively remove 4 points from your license.

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**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/18 "2009-02-26T18:46:34Z")

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he’s an idiot.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/19 "2009-02-27T08:47:56Z")

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it’s a TARP!!! they obviously won’t get as much business if they tell you the truth, so they bury it in a confusing answer and lie over the phone. Even the DMV’s quote is a little confusing to help the schools out since the DMV does want more educated drivers…

read the DMV quote again, read it carefully.

it could be said that by giving you the ability to get 4 more points, they are **effectively** removing “active” points. what’s not happening is that you have 6 points, take the class, and when the DMV runs your record it’s down to two. It will say 6 and note that you took the class.

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**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/points-reduction-class-where-to-go/63647/20 "2009-02-27T08:53:40Z")

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The point is, they are not going to remove anything from your driving record, so that they can hold it against you later on. However, if you get too many points, they will allow you to raise the limit by 4 for taking the class.

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