# Political Debate **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 30, 2004, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479 "2004-09-30T09:30:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/21 "2004-09-30T11:33:18Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > Its really sad. This country is going to shit. The political debates are for the people. Who the fuck thinks they have the right to put restrictions on that? Arent there more important things than battling over what temperature its gonna be in the room? Fuck Bush, Fuck Kerry, fuck the 2 party system, fuck these assholes that have homoginized every part ot the political process. The canidates probably done even fucking know what they stand for anymore. IN fact, they dont really stand for anything. They are puppets of the rich and powerful, and of their political parties. The ONLY mainstream canidate that is worth two shits is John McCain. YOu can ask him a question, and he will respond honestly, in his own words, without having to have the question in advance, so he can have 18 political consultants discuss it and have people poll to see what the most popluar answer is. And he will go against his party and the mainstream if thats the way he feels about it. I swear to god I damn near cried when Bush beat him out in the primaries back in 00. We were so close to having a REAL politician in the white house, and instead this stupid fucking country picked fuckwad Bush. Oh well. Maybe someday, once this country has been stripped of all its liberties and rights, people will think back and realize how bad they fucked up, and willl do something about it. :hs: nice rant, I agree 100% darkstar for president :bigthumb: ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/22 "2004-09-30T11:34:53Z")
> [@2kaltima](#): > > nice rant, I agree 100% > > darkstar for president :bigthumb: Fuckin A. Darkstar 2020. ---
**Author:** ![berad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/berad/32/5953_2.png) [@berad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/berad)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/23 "2004-09-30T14:38:03Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > Fuckin A. Darkstar 2020. W00T!! ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/24 "2004-09-30T14:49:47Z")
> [@showtime](#): > > its blows my mind how bush pushes an economic stratagy/agenda that doesn’t benefit middle or lower class people but a lot of them eat it up? > > Stupidity make me sick > > To me it seems like you should vote for the person who is going to make your life better… > > and on the debate issue…bush is a horrible pubic speaker…just hurts to watch him sorry, but the upper class run this country. Without them, we wouldn’t have companies to work for ---
**Author:** ![EcoThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb8c5e/32.png) [@EcoThunder](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EcoThunder)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/25 "2004-09-30T19:52:01Z")
Bush did well, and kerry did well also (i cant believe i gave kerry a compliment). Bush will still win. Bush rocks. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/26 "2004-09-30T19:54:04Z")
> [@EcoThunder](#): > > Bush did well, and kerry did well also (i cant believe i gave kerry a compliment). > > Bush will still win. Bush rocks. Bush did ok. Kerry did much better. Bush looked like a douchebag, because he is a douchebag. Kerry will win. I will laugh at you. ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/27 "2004-09-30T19:58:47Z")
bush ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/28 "2004-09-30T19:59:56Z")
> [@turbotalon91](#): > > bush looks like he’s a nuthair away from having full blown down syndrome. ---
**Author:** ![taco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@taco](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/taco)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/29 "2004-09-30T20:00:09Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > sorry, but the upper class run this country. Without them, we wouldn’t have companies to work for :stupid: Exactly, who are we to have a say in the country. The upper class own us and we are their servants. We should just accept their will and rule over us and be thankful that they even let us have jobs so we can buy food. I don’t know why those pesky democrats don’t realize this and keep wanting to help the common peasants of this country. The republicans understand that the purpose of the citizens of this country are to serve this upper class and be thankful that they let us have anything. ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/30 "2004-09-30T20:03:51Z")
> [@taco](#): > > :stupid: > Exactly, who are we to have a say in the country. The upper class own us and we are their servants. We should just accept their will and rule over us and be thankful that they even let us have jobs so we can buy food. > > I don’t know why those pesky democrats don’t realize this and keep wanting to help the common peasants of this country. The republicans understand that the purpose of the citizens of this country are to serve this upper class and be thankful that they let us have anything. your sarcasm isnt appreciated. But unfortunately… theres bosses in every company. 90% of this country’s wealth is controlled by 5% of the population. They did something to get there. Whether it was legit or not, they are productive in society. But tax breaks for the rich, why not? I know youre very intelligent when it comes to this, but let me explain something to you, that is not always appearant. The rich are capable of spending more money than the average joe. More money in the rich’s pockets, means more spending. More spending means, more revenue gained in taxation. More gained in taxation, allows for a better budget. Thats as simple as it gets. You put more money in a rich man’s pocket, he’ll be able to a.) reinvest into his current business, which will allow for more jobs or b.) open up more businesses, and bring forth new products to society, and again allow more jobs. More revenue earned, more taxation. It’s a good cycle. It all ends up in the same place edit: what i stated is not republican or democrat views… its just simple economics. ---
**Author:** ![KeSs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ad7895/32.png) [@KeSs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KeSs)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/31 "2004-09-30T20:43:44Z")
hands down kerry won this debate, i thought it was a absolute landslide vistory for him. If you feel that bush won then you are a idiot…he danced around questions, couldn’t finish his sentence, looked nervous the 2nd half of the debate…the list could go on ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/32 "2004-09-30T20:46:51Z")
> [@Darkstar](#): > > Fuckin A. Darkstar 2020. :headshot: ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/33 "2004-09-30T20:47:02Z")
bush won ---
**Author:** ![dgramc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dgramc/32/5934_2.png) [@dgramc](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dgramc)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/34 "2004-09-30T20:48:26Z")
i personally think bush came out on top of kerry in that debate ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/35 "2004-09-30T20:49:26Z")
i personally think i dident watch it but i’m still voating for bush ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/36 "2004-10-01T03:25:57Z")
Kerry had a little better showing than Bush… Bush started strong, but flubbed shit up the longer the debate went, and had a habit of repeating the same thing over and over instead of adding further details. He came off a little smug and (for lack of a better word) simple, which may play well for him in more rural states. Kerry seemed to start a little timid, and while you could see him get more loose and comfortable, he still seemed very rigid and unapproachable. He showed some much-needed backbone, which will help him regain lost ground in the polls. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/37 "2004-10-01T04:02:39Z")
I made it through about a half hour, got tired of hearing about the same stuff, and read about my new camshaft installation during the rest of it. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/38 "2004-10-01T05:57:05Z")
From what I have seen (the last 1/2 hour), bush is a complete moron. every other word was uhh, huh, well. Kerry used the whole time talking about the question and bush tried to tie everything back to Saddam and killed a bunch of time with silence or rambling. Kerry is 10x more intelligent and seems to know more about the issues than Bush, whose only job is to know about the issues. and what’s with that stupid smirk on Bush’s face the whole time? he is a fucking retard and I can’t wait till we get someone with an IQ higher than 50 in office again. ---
**Author:** ![berad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/berad/32/5953_2.png) [@berad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/berad)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/39 "2004-10-01T07:17:26Z")
Bush got his ass kicked. If you believe in Bush, just listen to his comebacks to Kerry’s criticism…he couldn’t defend himself from Kerry’s points, they were so right and true! Bush paused for like 10 seconds just to think of something to say… And also observe Bush’s composure during the split screen shots, Bush was making faces and his body language was totally immature and disrespectful to the Senator while he was speaking. Bush was chuckling when they were debating nuclear weapons policies. Bush tried to discredit Kerry’s ideas of an international security and anti-terrorism force saying that the idea was a threat to our own national security… SO how is having Donald Rumsfeld telling the world media our every military move and intention??? BUSH IS REDICULOUS! WHAT AN IDIOT Last night Kerry proved himself to be serious (showed his straight face the whole time) about the issues at hand, used detailed examples and points against Bush’s administration, and blocked Bush’s attempts to discredit him as one who is loose and changes positions on all issues. Kerry said it best…he takes information thats made available, uses it to adjust his stand based on a changing situation (hello! Its called using your brain !) whearas Bush is a straight shooter who does it as planned. Hands down Kerry owned Bush last night. AND question for all you servicemen, It seams you are behind Bush no matter what, thats totally respectful and I myself have a similar respect for him because he is the President, BUT are you thinking about making the change to Kerry? still trying to figure it out why you guys are so die-hard, ignorant to all the facts and the whole that Bush dug for our great nation. Enlighten me please. ---
**Author:** ![EcoThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb8c5e/32.png) [@EcoThunder](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EcoThunder)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479/40 "2004-10-01T07:25:05Z")
Kerry is just plain full of shit. He repeatedly talked about his “plan for Iraq”, yet has still failed to tell what his plan is a month before the election. Of course he sounded better…he can bullshit his way through anything. If you actually listened to what he had to say, then you would of realized he said “I can do better” about a million times, but we still dont know how. He made the statement that "Parents of troops are sending the state-of-the-art armor over to them because we cant afford it…and yet the asshole voted to cut military funding by 6 million dollars??? What a dumbass…and sadly half of you people still believe he’s suitable for presidency when the stupid ass cant make up his own mind about what he wants to do. Towards the beginning of the Debate, Kerry also said that we need to be stronger and more aggressive in Iraq…what about the statement he made that we need to fight “a more sensitive war on terror”? Bush can him and haw all he wants, but at least he thinks about things before he says them. Kerry just rambles off anything that comes to his warped brain. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/political-debate/169479.md?page=3)