# polyurethane bushings??? how many do i need for s14??? **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [May 18, 2005, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/polyurethane-bushings-how-many-do-i-need-for-s14/85784 "2005-05-18T10:20:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pccw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@Pccw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pccw)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/polyurethane-bushings-how-many-do-i-need-for-s14/85784/1 "2005-05-18T10:20:02Z")
how many polyurethane bushings do i need so i have ALL new bushing on my s14? and what brand makes them and how many do i need? and will improve handling compare with the stock worn out ones? ---
**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/polyurethane-bushings-how-many-do-i-need-for-s14/85784/2 "2005-05-18T10:33:33Z")
I have the PDM kit. I installed the following: Front: T/C rods, lower control arm Rear: Upper and lower control arm, traction rod, and toe arm There were two bushings left for rear that I could have put on the spindle but I opted not to. Just a word of warning; this isn’t an easy project (doing bushings upgrade). I’d probablly rate this a 7/10 or 8/10 on a scale of difficulty. Hardest part is getting the arms off (especially if they are all rusted) and then finding a shop to do the pressing for you. For the rear lower control arm, you will need to take the spindle off the shaft. Impact gun is a must if you want to save time. I bought a gun from eBay for $65cad and it saved me a TONNE of time when I did my rear 5-lug (and bushings). ---
**Author:** ![Pccw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@Pccw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pccw)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/polyurethane-bushings-how-many-do-i-need-for-s14/85784/3 "2005-05-18T17:43:44Z")
but if i am planning to buy the tc rod, toe rod, etc from cusco, tein, or other company, do i still need another bushing? ---
**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/polyurethane-bushings-how-many-do-i-need-for-s14/85784/4 "2005-05-18T18:38:32Z")
The arms on the multi link setup are: Front: - Lower control arm - T/C Rod Rear: - Upper control arm - Lower control arm - Toe rod arm - Traction rod arm (if you have HICAS, you don’t have this arm) It’s up to you as to which arms you wish to replace with pillow ball joints and which you want to replace bushings on. I went with the bushings route; quite tedious, labourous but cheap. Go to [www.splparts.com](http://www.splparts.com) to see what kind of arms you can buy. ---
**Author:** ![Pccw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@Pccw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pccw)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/polyurethane-bushings-how-many-do-i-need-for-s14/85784/5 "2005-05-18T21:32:58Z")
no rear camber arm? i thought rear camber arm is a must for lowered car, or is it? ---
**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/polyurethane-bushings-how-many-do-i-need-for-s14/85784/6 "2005-05-18T21:35:43Z")
The rear camber is adjusted using the upper control arm using eccentric camber bolts. Toe in and out is controlled by the traction rod (the toe rod arm is kinda misleading if you ask me) ---
**Author:** ![Pccw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@Pccw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pccw)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/polyurethane-bushings-how-many-do-i-need-for-s14/85784/7 "2005-05-19T10:49:35Z")
so no new bushing for me if i am getting the aftermarket “rods” right? the only bushing i need maybe is the subframe… ---
**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/polyurethane-bushings-how-many-do-i-need-for-s14/85784/8 "2005-05-19T18:26:54Z")
I’ve typed enough and I think my posts explain all that needs to be done. And there are no subframe ‘bushings’. They’re ‘spacers’ more like.