# Pontiac G8 Sport Wagon & Ute Coming to U.S. **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 11, 2008, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636 "2008-01-11T09:31:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/21 "2008-01-11T13:12:33Z")
> [@Jagermeister](#): > > I didn’t know you could push over a mountain. Impressive. yeah, i’ve been drinking milk. ---
**Author:** ![Anonymity](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/anonymity/32/7215_2.png) [@Anonymity](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Anonymity)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2008, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/22 "2008-01-11T13:17:45Z")
> [@Jeller"](#): > > Could this actually be a domestic wagon I like 😕 i think i like it. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/23 "2008-01-11T15:11:52Z")
> [@TriShield"](#): > > Pontiac G8 hatchback anyone? > > _Holden’s New Sportwagon Puts Excitement Back Into Practicality_ > > Sleek new sporty look for popular wagon > > GM Holden’s sleek new VE Commodore Sportwagon made its world debut today at the Australian International Motor Show in Sydney. > > The new family vehicle takes VE Commodore’s award-winning sporty design and engineering advances and integrates them into a stylish and practical wagon. > > The result is a desirable and functional addition to the VE range, offering a new level of comfort, safety and styling in a Holden wagon. > > GM Holden Chairman and Managing Director Chris Gubbey said, "The new VE Commodore Sportwagon puts the excitement back into practicality. This is a car for families with a ‘get-up-and-go’ attitude. > > "The generous interior space, combined with sleeker, sportier styling, makes this a wagon that people will want to own as a year-round family car, or for family and business use. > > “Holden’s new VE Sportwagon turns practi-‘cal’ into practi-‘cool’,” said Gubbey. > > The VE Commodore Sportwagon unveiled in Sydney today is a production-based concept vehicle. It is the first glimpse of the planned production model scheduled to hit Holden showrooms in the first half of 2008. > > The vehicle draws on VE sedan at the front with a sleek and sporty silhouette at the back and is built on the same VE wheelbase. It is the third VE derivative after sedan and the newly released ute range. > > _Features_ > > At the rear, Holden’s designers have cleverly created a wider opening by positioning the tailgate hinge well forward into the roof line. This has created a more vertical opening movement for the tailgate and reduces opening space required around the car. > > The higher cargo floor makes loading easier and a flexible cargo cover provides extra security for items stored in the back. > > VE Sportwagon seats five adults in comfort and a 60:40 split in the rear seating row can be folded flat for storing larger items. > > The motor show display model includes a roof mounted DVD player, Bluetooth capability, multi-function driver information display system and zone-based front and rear park assist systems - all currently standard on the VE Calais V-Series sedan. Features on the vehicle unique to the motor show include 20-inch alloy wheels, chrome window trim and unique interior colour combination. > > VE Commodore Sportwagon’s pricing, model line-up and powertrain combinations will be confirmed closer to the on-sale date, but expect to see a similar type of strategy to VE sedan, with entry level cars, sports models and luxury models ranging up to the luxurious VE Calais V-Series. > > Leading safety technology features such as ESP® will be standard across the range. > > Holden’s Executive Director Sales, Marketing and Aftersales, Alan Batey, said, "Sportwagon breaks the mould for Holden wagons. It’s got great style, performance and practicality for families, businesses or both. > > "Customers will get a car that’s equally at home as a working tool or a desirable family car - with all the storage advantages that come with a wagon. > > "We’ve added important safety features such as ESP® as standard, and more luxury versions will be incorporated into the range to further increase its appeal to families. > > “This is a vehicle that people will desire for its looks as well as its convenience over a sedan or an SUV,” he said. > > _Technology_ > > The concept model on display at the Australian International Motor Show also incorporates a V8 engine featuring Active Fuel Management (AFM) and E85 flex fuel capability. Active Fuel Management allows cylinders to turn off under light load conditions to improve fuel economy. > > The engine on show runs the same spark ignition, with fuelling matched to the same equivalence ratio as Holden’s current production V8 engine. It is designed to match the power and torque outputs of its petrol equivalent. The use of AFM and E85 technologies in this motor show vehicle aims to highlight General Motors’ capabilities in new propulsion advances. > > Chris Gubbey explains, "Showcasing an E85 fuel system in this vehicle makes a powerful statement about Holden and GM’s commitment to developing alternative energy sources that reduce our dependence on petroleum-based products. > > "It also demonstrates that drivers of alternative fuel vehicles don’t have to sacrifice performance. > > “Our sister brand Saab has led the way in promoting bio fuel technology to advance the public, political and commercial debate in this area. We want to add our voice to that debate whilst simultaneously looking at ways to further reduce fuel consumption in our existing engines.” > > The current VE sedan range of vehicles on sale in Australia are all E10 compatible with Holden’s V6 engine built in Melbourne also converted to E24 in Commodores exported to Brazil. . ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/24 "2008-01-11T15:12:24Z")
meh, I’m lazy, all these posts are too large for NYS. you get the gist ---
**Author:** ![StairSRT4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stairsrt4/32/7585_2.png) [@StairSRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StairSRT4)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/25 "2008-01-11T15:25:43Z")
I just can’t get into wagons. I think they are awful. But it’s not bad for a what it is. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/26 "2008-01-11T15:46:29Z")
> [@StairSRT4](#): > > I just can’t get into wagons. I think they are awful. But it’s not bad for a what it is. :lmfao: says the neon driver :smash2: ---
**Author:** ![Quattro\_Krant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ac91a4/32.png) [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/27 "2008-01-14T06:25:18Z")
> [@walter](#): > > :lmfao: > > says the neon driver :smash2: Took the words right out of my mouth ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/28 "2008-01-14T07:28:22Z")
That G8 wagon is dope ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/29 "2008-01-14T07:34:36Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > That G8 wagon is dope x8923749823473724 I want one bad. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/30 "2008-01-14T10:01:18Z")
Hot, though this seems like a really odd time to bring vehicles like this into production in the states. ---
**Author:** ![N\_CTRL](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_ctrl/32/4982_2.png) [@N\_CTRL](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/N_CTRL)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/31 "2008-01-14T10:30:02Z")
I think both are great. I’d buy the wagon in a heartbeat… the ute will sit on dealer lots. As much as I like the pick up it’s a mistake to bring them. ---
**Author:** ![Quattro\_Krant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ac91a4/32.png) [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/32 "2008-01-14T10:30:44Z")
> [@FuzzyFish](#): > > Hot, though this seems like a really odd time to bring vehicles like this into production in the states. It is not going to be made in the US, it’s made down under. ---
**Author:** ![StairSRT4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stairsrt4/32/7585_2.png) [@StairSRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StairSRT4)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/33 "2008-01-14T11:25:33Z")
> [@walter](#): > > :lmfao: > > says the neon driver :smash2: Hey it’s just my opinion. I don’t like wagons…you don’t like **SRT-4’s**. it’s cool. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/34 "2008-01-14T11:31:13Z")
That el camino thing is the worst. The _Ranchero_ was far superior. LOL at the new monte carlo converted into a truck… > [@walter](#): > > :lmfao: > > says the neon driver :smash2: > > [QUOTE=StairSRT4;801381]Hey it’s just my opinion. I don’t like wagons…you don’t like **SRT-4’s**. it’s cool. [/QUOTE] god. nothing is more annoying than people with **neons** saying that they are _not_ **neons** and are not, in fact, a car called a doge neon srt-4, but instead some other non-neon car simply called an srt-4. is a dodge viper srt-10 not actually a viper? Oh I’m not eating an apple, i’m eating a “Red Delicious” GTFO. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/35 "2008-01-14T20:27:00Z")
> [@newman](#): > > That el camino thing is the worst. The _Ranchero_ was far superior. LOL at the new monte carlo converted into a truck… > > god. nothing is more annoying than people with **neons** saying that they are _not_ **neons** and are not, in fact, a car called a doge neon srt-4, but instead some other non-neon car simply called an srt-4. > > is a dodge viper srt-10 not actually a viper? > > Oh I’m not eating an apple, i’m eating a “Red Delicious” GTFO. **POST OF THE WEEK** :party2: Beat me too it 😉 ---
**Author:** ![StairSRT4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stairsrt4/32/7585_2.png) [@StairSRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StairSRT4)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/36 "2008-01-15T07:34:15Z")
> [@newman](#): > > god. nothing is more annoying than people with **neons** saying that they are _not_ **neons** and are not, in fact, a car called a doge neon srt-4, but instead some other non-neon car simply called an srt-4. > > is a dodge viper srt-10 not actually a viper? > > Oh I’m not eating an apple, i’m eating a “Red Delicious” GTFO. call it whatever you want…a base neon is alot different than an SRT4…do you call a ZO6 just a corvette? or your STI a WRX? ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/37 "2008-01-15T07:48:22Z")
> [@StairSRT4](#): > > call it whatever you want…a base neon is alot different than an SRT4…do you call a ZO6 just a corvette? or your STI a WRX? No one doubts a SRT-4 Neon performs better than a base Neon but it is still a Neon Z06 is an Corvette STi is an Impreza WRX That’s like saying people should call there car by the trim level like LX or EX and not the model. By the way I drive a V, not a CTS-V. I don’t like to be associated with the non-performance versions of my vehicle. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/38 "2008-01-15T07:56:13Z")
A STI is still considered an Impreza, a Z06 is still a corvette, a SHO is still a taurus, a SRT-4 is still a Neon, a MazdaSpeed 6 is still a Mazda 6, and so on and so on. Even if they are all vastly different from the base model it’s still going to be regarded the same. > [@Quattro Krant](#): > > It is not going to be made in the US, it’s made down under. Valid point, importing for sale would have been a better way of referring to it. Given where things seem to be headed regarding the market it seems like an odd time to bring a lot of cars to the table that they are. ---
**Author:** ![Oroc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c68b51/32.png) [@Oroc](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oroc)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/39 "2008-01-15T09:01:54Z")
I dont think any sti owner would refer to it as an Impreza lol theoretically it is correct, str4 = neon, z06 = corvette, sti = impreza. however when i talk about cars i refer to them as their performance option, z06, sti, srt4… This thread is getting stupid. AESOP anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Quattro\_Krant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ac91a4/32.png) [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636/40 "2008-01-15T10:01:40Z")
> [@FuzzyFish](#): > > Valid point, importing for sale would have been a better way of referring to it. Given where things seem to be headed regarding the market it seems like an odd time to bring a lot of cars to the table that they are. I seem to recall that the V8 models would have displacement on demand in order to improve fuel economy [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-g8-sport-wagon-ute-coming-to-u-s/41636.md?page=3)