# Pontiac Grand Am's suck... **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [September 7, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274 "2008-09-07T16:51:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/21 "2008-09-09T15:48:19Z")
this site never ceases to amaze me. people are just getting more and more ignorant. can’t even post an opinion without being criticized now a days. ridiculous. and sunny…you wanna “win an argument” over the net…whatever buddy. all the power to ya! ---
**Author:** ![codyne](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/codyne/32/5629_2.png) [@codyne](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/codyne)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/22 "2008-09-12T00:24:14Z")
who cares. stop bickering lol i used to own a 92 cutlass supreme with 3.4L, you had to undo 1 motor mount, and hoist the engine just to change the alternator -it was ghey. ---
**Author:** ![jpod89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jpod89/32/5688_2.png) [@jpod89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jpod89)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/23 "2008-09-12T00:52:12Z")
ladies, grab a new pair of panties and throw your wet ones in the wash. thanks. ---
**Author:** ![codyne](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/codyne/32/5629_2.png) [@codyne](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/codyne)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/24 "2008-09-12T00:54:07Z")
^lol. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_TK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sunny_tk/32/5550_2.png) [@Sunny\_TK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sunny_TK)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/25 "2008-09-12T09:37:39Z")
i used to own a 2000 Chevy Cavalier Z24 with a twin cam 2.4L, you had to take the motor out, to change the water pump or the timing. to something as simple as the rad, you had to jack up the car, and undo soo many sensors and random brackets. Took 5 hours with 2 people helping! ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/26 "2008-09-12T11:20:00Z")
> [@lookibng for some dodgeballers](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lookibng-for-some-dodgeballers/18266/20): > > i used to own a 2000 Chevy Cavalier Z24 with a twin cam 2.4L, you had to take the motor out, to change the water pump or the timing. > > to something as simple as the rad, you had to jack up the car, and undo soo many sensors and random brackets. Took 5 hours with 2 people helping! 2 people 5 hours to do a rad? takes me hour and a half alone. you doing something wrong. big time. taking the motor out for anything is unnecessary. undo motor mount and lift her up. ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/27 "2008-09-12T11:28:37Z")
did a montanna yesterday. just shy of 3 hours. (lower intake) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_TK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sunny_tk/32/5550_2.png) [@Sunny\_TK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sunny_TK)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/28 "2008-09-12T12:08:06Z")
^not this again… this is why i dont have children ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/29 "2008-09-12T12:36:45Z")
^you are fucked. i simply said if it took 5 hours for 2 guys your doin something wrong. you need to grow up. really you do. especially if you wanna have “children” ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_TK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sunny_tk/32/5550_2.png) [@Sunny\_TK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sunny_TK)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/30 "2008-09-12T13:22:00Z")
LoL leave me alone! I just shared my own experience with cavaliers and your flaming me! Get A Life! ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/31 "2008-09-12T15:23:22Z")
i’m flaming you? are you for real man? my god, you are pathetic. since your so mature…and i’m not. ignore me and my comments all together! ---
**Author:** ![jpod89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jpod89/32/5688_2.png) [@jpod89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jpod89)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/32 "2008-09-12T15:35:49Z")
> [@Yikes!!! Suicidaly Early Apex.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yikes-suicidaly-early-apex/18304/14): > > ladies, grab a new pair of panties and throw your wet ones in the wash. > > thanks. L2Read KTHXBAI. Don’t think this thread is intended for arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Dj-Infinit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Dj-Infinit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dj-Infinit)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/33 "2008-09-12T16:18:27Z")
Lol Jpod Ur Awesome Lol. ---
**Author:** ![nitescream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@nitescream](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitescream)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/34 "2008-09-12T17:08:00Z")
> [@Sunny\_TK"](#): > > LoL leave me alone! I just shared my own experience with cavaliers and your flaming me! > > Get A Life! OKAY RELAX! you started something and lost… let in go… Lets go have a beer…well i dont drink you the beer and ill get milk as every says for me!! (PUNKS) — anyways about you and two others taking 5 hours thats kind of long haha but whatever u got the job done so good job!! oh and i drink 3.25% milk not non of that water down stuff!! Back on the topic GM SUCKS… i had one, it ran well… real well seeeeeee! but one rainy day it F%\*#ED OFF and never ran again… dem was the days!! ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_TK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sunny_tk/32/5550_2.png) [@Sunny\_TK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sunny_TK)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/35 "2008-09-14T07:37:33Z")
^what did you have? ---
**Author:** ![Ad4m](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@Ad4m](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ad4m)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/36 "2008-09-15T08:00:47Z")
let just finish this off with gm sucks nissan for liffe ---
**Author:** ![TorontoGT-R33](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torontogt-r33/32/5500_2.png) [@TorontoGT-R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TorontoGT-R33)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/37 "2008-09-15T16:46:22Z")
Actually the old school Grand am’s with the 3.1L V6 were very reliable and had great torque. You couldn’t kill those engines even if you tryed, they were like the GM version of the KA24 LOL. Yo who remembers the Chevy Beretta GTZ with the 3.1L it was like the quido mobile but for the brokeass quidos who couldn’t afford an Camaro IROC LOL. …actually I shouldn’t laugh I got pure 1987 Grand National, 1987 Monte Carlo SS, 1991 Camaro IROC and 1992 Trans am GTA in my blood… Yes I love old school GM’s… WHAT? ---
**Author:** ![Zman86](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zman86/32/5694_2.png) [@Zman86](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zman86)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/38 "2008-09-16T07:34:22Z")
The quad cam berettas? (shudder) Timing belt from hell. I love Grand Nationals, amazing cars. ---
**Author:** ![Jowo72](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jowo72/32/5560_2.png) [@Jowo72](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jowo72)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274/39 "2008-09-19T09:24:15Z")
> [@Gun Control](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/109): > > how many intakes and head jobs you guys do on the 3.4 based on a monthly average? my father and i run an independent shop in brampton and i’d say we average at least 4 a month. i’ve had it where i’ve had to do two at once. There is usually one or two lower gaskets a week. Headgaskets maybe one every 2 weeks. I’m out in the country so we don’t see as many cars/vans as we see 1/2 tonne and 3/4 tonne trucks. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-grand-ams-suck/118274.md?page=1)