# Pontiac is done **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611 "2009-04-24T09:53:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![pancho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eada6e/32.png) [@pancho](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pancho)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/41 "2009-04-27T18:34:24Z")
> [@Another new guy](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-new-guy/40176/7): > > Olds told GM to go fuck themselves basically by sending the cars out to get converted. the cars left olds as 442’s and sent to Demmer Engineering NOT HURST to do the swaps. the hurst olds isnt the same as yenko, royal, sox and martin, grand spalding… they were sold at any olds dealer not just one specific dealer. > > thats not a list of pontiac firsts either, its a historical timeline of stuff they did, not things they did before anyone else. > > GNX, Hurst Olds, Turbo Trans AM, Aero coupe monte SS, 69 440 6BBL Road runner/superbee were all cars sold through the factory but converted offsite. Tri-Power, Ram air, and sweet hood tachs perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![4doors5gears](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/4doors5gears/32/6006_2.png) [@4doors5gears](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4doors5gears)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/42 "2009-04-27T18:42:16Z")
Sucks to see but, lets face it, Pontiac is a shadow of it’s former self. Aside from the G8 and Solstice, they don’t have anything but re-branded Chevrolets and whatnot. And GM can axe Pontiac, but we still have the memories of Muscle Car glory days, so we just need to preserve that history and keep those cars on the road. ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/43 "2009-04-27T20:40:01Z")
> [@Purchasing/replacing an HDTV bulb?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/purchasing-replacing-an-hdtv-bulb/40147/8): > > Tri-Power, Ram air, and sweet hood tachs perhaps? olds had tri-power in 57, pontiac had it the same year ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/44 "2009-04-27T22:14:41Z")
All of you are :tool:'s GTO is poop. the stupid tiger commercials could not save it. under powered Mustang \>\* How are those apples !!! - Good will hunting ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/45 "2009-04-28T06:27:58Z")
olds is dead and has been for a while, let it go. noone cares about olds anymore, and barely did care when they were still around. ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/46 "2009-04-28T08:14:42Z")
> [@New Ride \*EDIT\* COBRA IS GONE!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-edit-cobra-is-gone/40184/18): > > olds is dead and has been for a while, let it go. noone cares about olds anymore, and barely did care when they were still around. i guess all those people that made it number 1 in the late 70s didnt care. dechrome ur truck because olds came up with that, i hope ur truck is a stick because olds came up with the automatic. etc etc ---
**Author:** ![averagewhiteboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/averagewhiteboy/32/6018_2.png) [@averagewhiteboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/averagewhiteboy)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/47 "2009-04-28T08:28:03Z")
Yeah, I’m really not sure why they’re removing Pontiac. I mean, I guess it’s the only logical choice. Cadillac is Cadillac, Buick is bought by insane amounts of old people, Chevy is bought my many people, and Saturn is finally taking off. I figured it’d be between Saturn or Pontiac. And honestly, I’d rather it be Saturn. But shit happens. It’ll probably be back eventually, but we’ll have to wait and see. GM did this to themselves though. No one else to blame. And this bullshit about making the same damn car across different companies is just dumb. We don’t need the Cobalt and the G5 if they’re both the same car. Way to cut business from your other brand. ---
**Author:** ![berad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/berad/32/5953_2.png) [@berad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/berad)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/48 "2009-04-28T08:34:25Z")
Chrome and automatic transmissions? What a contribution. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/49 "2009-04-28T09:24:22Z")
> [@How late, is too late?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-late-is-too-late/40170/12): > > Yeah, I’m really not sure why they’re removing Pontiac. My opinion is that they really wanted to make it a niche market segment, but that idea was (strongly) poo-pooed by the government. ---
**Author:** ![pancho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eada6e/32.png) [@pancho](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pancho)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/50 "2009-04-28T09:43:38Z")
> [@New Ride \*EDIT\* COBRA IS GONE!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-edit-cobra-is-gone/40184/18): > > olds is dead and has been for a while, let it go. noone cares about olds anymore, and barely did care when they were still around. olds died when the last g body 442 came off the line ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/51 "2009-04-28T10:01:29Z")
> [@WTB: mid 80s monte/cutlass/regal](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-mid-80s-monte-cutlass-regal/40201/8): > > Chrome and automatic transmissions? What a contribution. on star (guide star), HUD, the first mass produced car, first modern fwd, first air bag, first turbocharged engine. the first auto assembly line ( often credited to henry ford) … :finger2: ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/52 "2009-04-28T10:18:02Z")
cutty… where are you getting all of this misinformation? i guess you meant the first autotranny with a converter? the first heads up display was GM… right? SAE Technical Paper No. 890228… I guess you meant the first mass produced car in the United States… the 78 dodge omni tranny??? that was made in 1975 by Volkswagen? and first _gasoline_ turbocharged engine _mass produced_… the first conveyor driven assembly line was Ford, which is still used today… oh and onstar: “OnStar delivered its first product and service to the market in 11 months, in the fall of 1996 for model year 1997 Cadillac DeVille, Seville and Eldorado models” … the airbag idea was invented and pitched to chrysler… but first mass produced by ford in 1970 ---
**Author:** ![dyingwish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dyingwish/32/6041_2.png) [@dyingwish](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dyingwish)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/53 "2009-04-28T10:26:24Z")
Sonny (after a good day of googling) \> Cutty ---
**Author:** ![averagewhiteboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/averagewhiteboy/32/6018_2.png) [@averagewhiteboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/averagewhiteboy)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/54 "2009-04-28T10:28:16Z")
> [@free rottweiler](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/free-rottweiler/40215/2): > > olds died when the last g body 442 came off the line Agreed. The only Old’s half worth a shit after that looks/performance-wise was the Aurora. And those didn’t hold up too well build-quality-wise from the ones I’ve driven… ---
**Author:** ![pancho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eada6e/32.png) [@pancho](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pancho)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/55 "2009-04-28T10:30:27Z")
> [@Mitchell Report - Released!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mitchell-report-released/40216/8): > > on star (guide star), HUD, the first mass produced car, first modern fwd, first air bag, first turbocharged engine. the first auto assembly line ( often credited to henry ford) … :finger2: First mass produced car- model t On-star, goes to caddy-In 1996, then GM North America Operations President Rick Wagoner officially launched OnStar at the Chicago Auto Show. OnStar delivered its first product and service to the market in 11 months, in the fall of 1996 for model year 1997 Cadillac DeVille, Seville and Eldorado models. For a short time, OnStar service was available on vehicles produced by Acura, Audi, Subaru, Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen through a licensing agreement. first front wheel drive ever- Prior to 1900 According to various sources, sometime between 1895 and 1898 Gräf & Stift built a voiturette with a one-cylinder De Dion-Bouton engine fitted in the front of the vehicle, powering the front axle. It was thus arguably the world’s first front-wheel drive automobile, but it never saw mass production, with only one copy ever made. First Modern- the mini 1959, because of its traverse engine arrangement still used today. Airbag- a joint project by gm but was in a chevy car first, Ford built an experimental fleet of cars with airbags in 1971, followed by General Motors in 1973 on Chevrolet vehicles. In 1974, GM made dual-stage twin front airbags optional in full-size Buick, Cadillac and Oldsmobile models and called them the “Air Cushion Restraint System”. The early fleet of experimental GM vehicles equipped with airbags experienced seven fatalities, one of which was later suspected to have been caused by the airbag.[citations needed] Ill give you turbocharged car,but turbocharging a v8 is like eating a rice filled hotdog, and hud. i can go all day pal ---
**Author:** ![berad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/berad/32/5953_2.png) [@berad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/berad)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/56 "2009-04-28T10:32:24Z")
Cutty must still be asking Jeeves. ---
**Author:** ![averagewhiteboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/averagewhiteboy/32/6018_2.png) [@averagewhiteboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/averagewhiteboy)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/57 "2009-04-28T10:32:32Z")
Ouch. ---
**Author:** ![pancho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eada6e/32.png) [@pancho](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pancho)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/58 "2009-04-28T10:35:08Z")
oh and another first car, > **[1899 Karns Runabout Pictures, History, Value, Research, News - conceptcarz.com](https://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z15927/karns-runabout.aspx)** > > The history of the Karns automobile started like so many of that era with roots in the carriage building industry Chester Karns of Everett Pennsylvania was the son of a carriage builder As the ![http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Karns/1899-Karns_Runabout-DV-08_RMH_s01.jpg](http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Karns/1899-Karns_Runabout-DV-08_RMH_s01.jpg) I am Spenser Karns from bedford county this is kinda my legacy. ---
**Author:** ![dyingwish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dyingwish/32/6041_2.png) [@dyingwish](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dyingwish)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/59 "2009-04-28T10:35:48Z")
> [@New Ride \*EDIT\* COBRA IS GONE!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-edit-cobra-is-gone/40184/19): > > Cutty must still be asking Jeeves. One of these times it’s going to spit out an answer like: “For the last time, even search engines don’t give a shit about Olds.” :eek3: ---
**Author:** ![pancho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eada6e/32.png) [@pancho](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pancho)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611/60 "2009-04-28T10:38:49Z")
> [@New Ride \*EDIT\* COBRA IS GONE!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-ride-edit-cobra-is-gone/40184/20): > > One of therse times it’s going to spit out an answer like: “For the last time, even search engines don’t give a shit about Olds.” :eek3: > [@The Official Banish MikeRi24 Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-banish-mikeri24-thread/40214/17): > > Agreed. The only Old’s half worth a shit after that looks/performance-wise was the Aurora. And those didn’t hold up too well build-quality-wise from the ones I’ve driven… NUFF SAID [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pontiac-is-done/202611.md?page=4)